Paladin TP issues should be adressed

[Rhode]

Could a method of restoring TP for Paladin be implemented?

Warrior already has one that can be used very easily, and Dark Knight doesn't always use TP (they can use MP draining moves like Unmend, Dark Passenger, Abyssal Drain, Unleash) and other abilities use no TP at all (Low Blow, Reprisal, Plunge, Carve and Spit).

Paladin lacks any way of sustaining their own TP outside of standing still and doing nothing or using Clemency. Maybe a possible solution would be to make Sheltron restore TP similar to Equilibrium but only if you're in Sword Oath? Or make each Shield Swipe restore TP.

[Blitzace]

i still find it funny i run out of TP so quickly and then look at the other DPS/tanks and i'm like welp... not gonna ask for a brd to sing for just me... *plays with thumb*

[Ninster]

Not a Paladin main, but when I recently went through the anima quest to get the Awoken gear for it, I noticed how bad my TP was nose-diving. I miss the old Shield Swipe now.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

Could a method of restoring TP for Paladin be implemented?

Warrior already has one that can be used very easily, and Dark Knight doesn't always use TP (they can use MP draining moves like Unmend, Dark Passenger, Abyssal Drain, Unleash) and other abilities use no TP at all (Low Blow, Reprisal, Plunge, Carve and Spit).

Paladin lacks any way of sustaining their own TP outside of standing still and doing nothing or using Clemency. Maybe a possible solution would be to make Sheltron restore TP similar to Equilibrium but only if you're in Sword Oath? Or make each Shield Swipe restore TP.

Wait and hope they fix the problems with paladin in the next patch. At the moment, I don't know what a paladin is. Only tanks are Dark Knight and Warrior.

[Pence]

Paladin? Pah-lah-deen? Plate? Dinner? Chicken? Fried chicken?

Are you talking about fried chicken?

This word is foreign to XIV players. Please explain?

[Kietsu]

One thing that really struck me when farming A4 as an AST or MCH was how fast a PLD runs out of TP when main tanking. Fights with no downtime seem to be really brutal on them.
It's not great with a DRK, either, and I really have to wonder why WAR is the only tank that got a TP recovery ability, albeit one that requires you to be out of tank stance.

[Haprimac]

It's not great with a DRK, either.

I'm too busy spazzing with MP to even remember I have TP. Didn't even realise DRK might run out of TP in a long single-target fight. But makes sense. o.ô

[Ultimatecalibur]

One thing that really struck me when farming A4 as an AST or MCH was how fast a PLD runs out of TP when main tanking. Fights with no downtime seem to be really brutal on them.
It's not great with a DRK, either, and I really have to wonder why WAR is the only tank that got a TP recovery ability, albeit one that requires you to be out of tank stance.

I think the dev team seriously overestimated the amount of spellcasting Paladins (and Dark Knights) would be doing. Every 3 seconds spent casting a spell is 60 TP recovered. If they thought Paladins would be casting Stoneskin fairly often (say as part of a GB -> RA -> RA/RoH -> SS rotation) then they probably thought Paladin and Warrior would have a similar TP consumption rates.

[Februs]

I think the dev team seriously overestimated the amount of spellcasting Paladins (and Dark Knights) would be doing. Every 3 seconds spent casting a spell is 60 TP recovered. If they thought Paladins would be casting Stoneskin fairly often (say as part of a GB -> RA -> RA/RoH -> SS rotation) then they probably thought Paladin and Warrior would have a similar TP consumption rates.

That would be fine, only it is actively discouraged by HW end-game.

Clemency's cast time (and the possibility of interrupts) limits it's use to Tank Busters, AoE's, or general pauses in the fight where the boss becomes un-target-able (which makes no diff to Tp, since you're no longer attacking anyway). So even if you are using Clemency liberally and skillfully you're not replenishing all that much Tp on the whole. Using Clemency or Stone Skin during a mob pull is enmity suicide, because Pld's have the lowest enmity gen out of all the Tanks. 3 seconds casting is 3 seconds in which you stand to lose hate on something a gun happy Smn is attacking.

Now, for the most part (100% up-time fights aside) it is possible to use Clemency and Stone Skin to the effect of keeping a decent amount of Tp (not nearly as much as War or Drk, but enough to function); however, if you do use those skills you are openly criticized for it by both the game mechanics and your party members. Dps checks were so steep in end-game that any Pld who dared to cast a Stone Skin or Clemency were crucified for lowering the parties Dps. Pld's already have the lowest Dps of all 3, so they were first on the chopping block when Dps checks hit the ceiling. Going extra Tanky by using SS or Clem meant being immediately replaced with a War or Drk.

[Praesul]

You don't even need to be in Deliverance to recover TP as WAR. Something that people never keep in mind is that WARs recover TP every time they use one of their on GCD 0 TP abilities like Inner Beast or Steel Cyclone...Not only that, but if you use berserk there's that 5 second (or 2.5 second if you time it right) pacification where you can't do anything but recover TP. I was just testing my rotation in Defiance before I saw this thread and i was at 4:17 before I got bored and left the dummy, still had about 300 TP to spare, and it was with liberal usage of Fracture.

In actual encounters with downtime you're literally never going to run out unless it involves lots of aoe. WAR has 0 TP problems even outside of Deliverance and it's pretty ridiculous.