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    Player TheWaywardWind's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    No one leaves a game against an Astrologian thinking "man, Retrogradation is really powerful! Their use of it was a major reason why we lost!" - it's way down the list of things that are powerful about Astrologian.
    Your skill can't even be used the way you described half the time. It only comes into use IF the node is higher up, and that's a huge "IF." If your skill relies on tomelith RNG to make it powerful, and you somehow think it's more powerful than a skill that you can use ANYWHERE, I don't really know what to tell you.
    No one leaves a game against a Scholar thinking, "man, Aura Blast is really powerful! Their use of it was a major reason why we lost!" - it's way down on the list of things that are powerful about Scholar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind View Post
    Your skill can't even be used the way you described half the time. It only comes into use IF the node is higher up, and that's a huge "IF." If your skill relies on tomelith RNG to make it powerful, and you somehow think it's more powerful than a skill that you can use ANYWHERE, I don't really know what to tell you.
    No one leaves a game against a Scholar thinking, "man, Aura Blast is really powerful! Their use of it was a major reason why we lost!" - it's way down on the list of things that are powerful about Scholar.
    FAM comon now how many times have people you've played against said "man, that Retro knocked off my infuriate right before I fell cleaved or caused all the bullets to fall out of my gun, it must be really powerful! That use and that rng are a major reason we lost!"

    I feel like that's way down on the list of things that have been said about Astro
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  3. #43
    Player TheWaywardWind's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANGOSENTINEL View Post
    FAM comon now how many times have people you've played against said "man, that Retro knocked off my infuriate right before I fell cleaved or caused all the bullets to fall out of my gun, it must be really powerful! That use and that rng are a major reason we lost!"

    I feel like that's way down on the list of things that have been said about Astro
    FAM comon now how many times have people you've played against said "man, that Aura Blast knocked me off way down, it must be really powerful! That use and that reg are a major reason we lost!"

    I feel like that's way down on the list that have been said about scholar.
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  4. #44
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    Kyani Jawantal
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind View Post
    FAM comon now how many times have people you've played against said "man, that Aura Blast knocked me off way down, it must be really powerful! That use and that reg are a major reason we lost!"

    I feel like that's way down on the list that have been said about scholar.
    You've really never been Aura Blasted off a high node, huh? You poor, sheltered thing. Aura Blast and Mythril Tempest are super obvious when you're on the recieving end of them, and they're both game-winning effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyani View Post
    You've really never been Aura Blasted off a high node, huh? You poor, sheltered thing. Aura Blast and Mythril Tempest are super obvious when you're on the recieving end of them, and they're both game-winning effects.
    Feels a little superfluous when the half a dozen warriors already pelted everyone of the cliff though. I'll be honest, I don't think it's that great because the war and pld both get knockbacks and will presumably be the first ones barreling into the enemy team to push them off the node, and both their knockbacks have additional effects, and both of them have a pvp skill to stop them from being pushed off too. I'd take retrogradation over sch's skill, really.
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    Really depends on the faction and datacenter - Aether Flames only really has a few great warriors, and they're not all gung-ho to charge up a cliff or knock defenders away, so I get a lot of mileage out of it. If you never get a chance to use the knockback, I can see why you wouldn't think it's powerful, but i'm not wanting for chances to use it, and it's always fantastic when I do. Remember, it's actually the most potent version of the ability - with an extra 5 yards of knockback over Mythril Tempest, you get this much more distance (from my character to the edge of the circle):



    e: Here's a map with all the places where Aura Blast comes up highlighted. It's pretty rare that you don't fight at at least one of these locations in a 10+ minute game.

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    Last edited by Kyani; 01-23-2016 at 06:21 PM.

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    Guys this guy is just not letting go lmao. Probably salty AST has overtook SCHs throne in PvP. rip.
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    TBH I've never heard of Retro before this thread, let alone people boasting about it (or complaining about the effects of it) .

    Aura Blast, on the other hand, annoys the shit out of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    Guys this guy is just not letting go lmao. Probably salty AST has overtook SCHs throne in PvP. rip.
    Or maybe the two of you are ignoring everything i've said about different class strengths to fixate on a relatively weak PvP skill that you think of as amazing?

    Nah, couldn't be.

    Astrologian is a powerful class. Retrogradation and AoE healing are not reasons the class is powerful. If you really think Astrologian is simply The Best At Everything, then I don't know what to tell you.
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    Last edited by Kyani; 01-24-2016 at 02:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovelikewinter View Post
    TBH I've never heard of Retro before this thread, let alone people boasting about it (or complaining about the effects of it) .

    Aura Blast, on the other hand, annoys the shit out of me.
    To be honest, I can't remember the last time I was push off a cliff by a sch. A lot of the elevated areas are really wide, have a good amount of wall space or have really unforgiving chokes I find. I can really only think of 2 nodes where I've seen aura blast be anything more than a poor man's fluid aura.
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