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    Last thing SCH needs is a third pet. It would either be a waste of resources (by being inferior to Selene; being better than Eos would be irrelevant as it's Selene that's #1), or ends up furthering SCH's stranglehold in parties at the expense of current and future healer jobs. Same thing applies to Enkindle, since the direction of SCH going forward should be to differentiate it from SMN, not copy from its skillset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    You have the ability (in lore) to summon one fairy and one fairy alone. Selene is the dusk aspect of Lily, Eos the dawn aspect, and LB3 seems to summon Lily whole on SCH.

    But hey, who isnt to say that in the future they go "hey found this old Nymian text, it allows you to summon a different fairy" etc etc etc.
    That just means we have two more slots for fairies, noon and midnight. Personally, I'd like for one of them to be an offensive debuff fairy.

    But back to the topic at hand, I feel like what's missing from the bigger picture is more use for other stats besides crit. Even now, they are skimping on our main secondary stat because they think it's too good for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
    That just means we have two more slots for fairies, noon and midnight. Personally, I'd like for one of them to be an offensive debuff fairy.
    no, we don't. See previous posts

    With that kind of concept, we'd have room for:
    Afternoon fairy, High noon fairy, noon fairy, night fairy, mid-night fairy
    But why stick to parts of the day and take entire days?
    Hanukka fairy, Christmas fairy, easter fairy, new year fairy, chinese new year fairy, oktober fest fairy
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    Just to humour the conversation (possibly away from a third fairy) ask and answer these questions:

    What role of a healer does SCH play in relation to other healers?

    What weakness does SCH have (if any) compared to other healers?

    Is this weakness acceptable?

    Do you feel SCH needs to improve healing, support, or DPS contribution? (Choose the one that would need updated over the course of level 60-70)

    Is the play style too simple or could it stand to gain more complexity for more pay off (think Enochian)?
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    Fairies that sit on your should and peek at your book while /bm standing still.
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

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    First skill I want to see that came to my mind would be a 3 min CD-Skill that would summon the opposite fairy you currently have for 10 seconds in addition to the one you have. She would sic-cast all her skills once (starting with silence/Magic resistance) and vanish.

    Or even better, you gain a stack of fairy dust every 2 min. You can use a skill of a fairy currently not summoned. Only useable under the effect of fairy dust. Dissipation grants you a stack of fairy dust. (Wont happen due to the high requirements in hotbarspace and mikromanagement but I would like it.)
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    Lol. What about something later on to help with fairy swaps or to remove Dissipation?

    Aspected Recourse:

    Your next Summon or Summon II has no casting time and has no casting cost. Only available when a pet is summoned or under the effect of Dissipation. While under the effect of Dissipation, remove Dissipation.

    Can only be used when under the effect of Aetherflow.
    Suggested Cool Down: 180 seconds.
    Duration: 15 seconds
    In Quotes for emphasis. This way, Dissipation loses its stigma for being a punishment skill and does not necessarily have to cost us a swiftcast to bring back our fairy and even without Dissipation, switching pets would not cost us swiftcast. Maybe a second additional effect could be made to restore MP (went ahead and added that in at a free summon cost) but Dissipation can be pretty sexy sometimes when you just need that burst heal RIGHT NOW. The idea of the skill is to change the aspect of your fairy by using your aetherflow, or summoning one using the aether you borrowed from them with Dissipation. It also encourages SCH to ration their additional aetherflow gained from Dissipation in order to quickly resummon after the burst heal/heavy aoe heal has finished.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 01-21-2016 at 03:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Do you feel SCH needs to improve healing, support, or DPS contribution? (Choose the one that would need updated over the course of level 60-70)
    I wouldn't mind some support abilities, but to be honest I'd rather BRD and MCH get a lot more supporting abilities and transition to an actual supporting role so they have a slightly better identity.

    For SCH though, I would actually like to see more DPS abilities. I like that we got a lot for our healing kit in this expansion, but to keep it real SCH is about as 'hybrid' a job as they can get in this game. I think people who chose to main SCH like the fact that we are practically taking on two roles, and I would rather they keep that feeling alive for us than play it safe and make it all about the healing. Obviously they can't make us too OP, but making the DPS side of things a little more interesting would be nice. That being said I would be extremely opposed to anything Enochian style ;p
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    +1 on the dps part - quoting myself: faery enkindle is what we need :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    +1 on the dps part - quoting myself: faery enkindle is what we need :3
    Can we just get dissipation changed to also make the fairy explode and deal aoe damage? Keep everything else it does just with the fairies going KABOOM.
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