Thread: SCH 4.0

Originally Posted by Rawrz

If SE wants it to happen it can. The summoning of egis isn't "exactly" like the past summoners. It's infused with the teachings of today's summoning. Example of what SE Could do:

Lilly senses that she has found a new strength within her, but can't quite understand it, like words in her soul that won't form. You ask the nymians what this could mean. Obviously he has no idea. He suggests strengthening your bonds with Lilly, by entering her aetheric core with your mind. Inside you fight dark sprites with either Eos or Selene as NPcs (summoning them doesn't work, think permanent dissapate.) Finally after defeating them you see another fairy. Selene and Eos Touch the third fairy and become Lilly and you exit her aetheric core. You report to tonberry and he explains that your own aether had been strengthening lilly this entire time allowing her to harness another aspect (such as midday.)

Where there is a will and publishing/development control, there is a way.

With that kind of thinking:
Black Mages can start resurrecting through the power of lightning
Arcanist obtaining the power of nature through tactical devices and become White Scholars, obtaining every spell and ability originally monopolized by White Mages
Every job can suddenly have magical pets because why not
Hydaelyn decides to perma echo you
Lily becomes a pokemon and starts evolving into Lillith, becoming the sexiest beast of Eorzea

There's a thing about adding story to the lore just to make things possible or adding story to the lore because it is possible. For example: Somehow Alka Zolka found another tablet that would describe how fairies are constructed. Where did that tablet come from? How did he get it? Why didn't anyone else like the Imperials get their hands on it first? It's a bit too convenient for it to suddenly appear in his hands by chance. Yes, Square-Enix could go for these kind of cheap story telling approaches. But the question is whether they want to resort to cheap story telling approaches.
Alternatively, if not the lore issue, there's balance issue. For that you can consult an older topic: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...a-third-one%29

Carbuncles are an individual's creations. Meshing their aether into a living form using the arcane. Summoning is bringing your aether with that of a primal. Scholars borrow a fairy, created by a people thousands of years ago, but posses nothing of your aether? If it ever happened, we'd just give up a new skill in place of a new fairy. The main argument against fairies isn't the lore, it's the possibility of gross imbalance and "I want something else instead."

Overall though, I'd rather they added fairy skills to further exaggerate the difference between eos and Selene instead of adding something like "helios". I'm just saying that I believe lilly could grow, she's unlike anything else that's summoned.

Would really like to see Arcanist revised to be something more than just a DoT-class, and then for Scholar to build upon that in a different direction from Summoner. Though at the same time I don't want to drop SCH's ease of dps through DoTs and Bane...

Other than that, maybe just some faster or more frequent manipulations similar to Deployment Tactics and Emergency Tactics, or just improvements upon those two themselves, and maybe some additional types of shielding or mechanics by which to augment shields.

Changing some of the fairy skills from mere cooldowns to something more resource-based, or on which direct casts could be spent, could be interesting as well. Or even just an additional ability per pet. I can't yet imagine a third pet having enough to offer or be worth its development, but I'm sure someone else could.

Originally Posted by Aurelinaus

I did and disregarded it because people who bring up the lore argument always throw that bit there. Just because someone goes "blah, blah, blah because lore it has to be that way....btw gonna say this to cover my butt even though it conflicts with my prior stance on the arguement, lore may be changed/retconned" doesn't mean I'm going to not call them out. If you're going to go hey 'read the second half of my post, what was the point of the first? So were you agreeing, disagreeing, posting just to throw a bag of words out there?

Question was asked, question was answered.

Second half was my opinion, if you disregard that then there is no point in your contribution.