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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Well, It actually is a one handed sword and wouldn't fit zweihander type jobs.
    A large number of pre-HW DRK weapons are just scaled up versions of one-handed swords. Most of their primal weapons, their Allagan weapons, and their tomestone weapons are all just big versions of the corresponding PLD weapons. There are a number of them among the leveling swords as well.
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    I'd like it. Think I asked for something similar and someone said it'd be problematic since it'd look weird to have some handle sticking out your back, so I drew what it would look like sheathed (somewhat):



    Srry for the low level drawing, haven't been grinding lately XD
    But yeah they could work around the handle thing.

    Note: It could stay looking like a katana, I just don't know how to draw those properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AstralKaos View Post
    Nearly every primal, crafted and raid weapon DRK has had this already... have you seen how dumb some of them look? I think we're past stupid already.

    Scale it properly and it'll look fine (I guess), longer hilt with a slightly longer yet wider blade for example.
    God dont' remind me how bad most these DRK weapons look. I wound up glamoring Balmung over mine because it's one of the few I think look good with a DRK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    A large number of pre-HW DRK weapons are just scaled up versions of one-handed swords. Most of their primal weapons, their Allagan weapons, and their tomestone weapons are all just big versions of the corresponding PLD weapons. There are a number of them among the leveling swords as well.
    Everything you just mentioned are arbitrary products of the game's lore. Odin is an actual character from Norse mythology and furthermore has the same incarnation in this game that has followed the previous FF games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Everything you just mentioned are arbitrary products of the game's lore. Odin is an actual character from Norse mythology and furthermore has the same incarnation in this game that has followed the previous FF games.
    You said the one-handed sword wouldn't work for a job that uses zweihanders, but they've already been using one-handed swords as two-handed swords since DRK was introduced, so that's not a very good argument against the inclusion of a Zantetsuken upscale for DRK. Odin's mythological origins don't have anything to do with that in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    You said the one-handed sword wouldn't work for a job that uses zweihanders, but they've already been using one-handed swords as two-handed swords since DRK was introduced, so that's not a very good argument against the inclusion of a Zantetsuken upscale for DRK. Odin's mythological origins don't have anything to do with that in any way.
    Yes, it does. All of the FFXIV in house products (weapons from primals for example) have no external source to keep consistent with. If they had made Midgardsomr in the game that looked like a chicken then it would be seemingly awkward (he also adheres to his Norse Mythology counterpart).
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Yes, it does. All of the FFXIV in house products (weapons from primals for example) have no external source to keep consistent with. If they had made Midgardsomr in the game that looked like a chicken then it would be seemingly awkward (he also adheres to his Norse Mythology counterpart).
    You do know that Zantetsuken isn't from Norse Mythology, right? The Odin in FF isn't much like the Norse Wotan except for the name, his spear (Gungnir), and Sleipnir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saiah View Post
    Just make it larger with a longer handle and a different name like "shin-zantetsuken". Theyve done that with alot of other DRK swords, simply making larger versions of PLD swords and a few NIN daggers.
    shouldn't need to make it larger. just give it a longer handle and it's good with it's current blade length.

    on an unrelated note, drgs need a gungnir

    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Well, It actually is a one handed sword and wouldn't fit zweihander type jobs.
    semantics, one-handed swords like the ones in final fantasy are often referred to as "hand and a half swords"

    they are light enough to be used one handed with a shield, or held in both hands.

    if we wanted to get technical, we could even give warriors swords that have been reversed so that the blade is being used as a grip.
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    I'll take Thordan's sword. He's the best DRK ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    You do know that Zantetsuken isn't from Norse Mythology, right? The Odin in FF isn't much like the Norse Wotan except for the name, his spear (Gungnir), and Sleipnir.
    Zantetsuken actually isn't from any mythology.

    First it's actually three words. Zan Tetsu Ken. Ken being the generic term for blade in japanese, Tetsu meaning Iron, and Zan roughly meaning cutting or cutter. So it means "Iron-Cutting Blade" in english with Shin-Zantetsuken meaning True Iron Cutting Blade. And is any of several near mythical historical katana that were able to cut (or more likely break) another Katana's blade on contact.

    Odin was said in game to have taken Zantetsuken as a war prize from an Eastern Auri Warrior he defeated who had the honor of being the first to actually damage his armor. So presumably The Gungnir Lance (Odin's Spear in Mythology) would have been his weapon prior to him obtaining the Zantetsuken.

    Hmm, I just remembered that Yojimbo from FF10 has a large weapon with the same ability The "Zanmato". Perhaps the scaled up blade could be called Zanmato.
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