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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Everything you just mentioned are arbitrary products of the game's lore. Odin is an actual character from Norse mythology and furthermore has the same incarnation in this game that has followed the previous FF games.
    You said the one-handed sword wouldn't work for a job that uses zweihanders, but they've already been using one-handed swords as two-handed swords since DRK was introduced, so that's not a very good argument against the inclusion of a Zantetsuken upscale for DRK. Odin's mythological origins don't have anything to do with that in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    You said the one-handed sword wouldn't work for a job that uses zweihanders, but they've already been using one-handed swords as two-handed swords since DRK was introduced, so that's not a very good argument against the inclusion of a Zantetsuken upscale for DRK. Odin's mythological origins don't have anything to do with that in any way.
    Yes, it does. All of the FFXIV in house products (weapons from primals for example) have no external source to keep consistent with. If they had made Midgardsomr in the game that looked like a chicken then it would be seemingly awkward (he also adheres to his Norse Mythology counterpart).
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Yes, it does. All of the FFXIV in house products (weapons from primals for example) have no external source to keep consistent with. If they had made Midgardsomr in the game that looked like a chicken then it would be seemingly awkward (he also adheres to his Norse Mythology counterpart).
    You do know that Zantetsuken isn't from Norse Mythology, right? The Odin in FF isn't much like the Norse Wotan except for the name, his spear (Gungnir), and Sleipnir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    You do know that Zantetsuken isn't from Norse Mythology, right? The Odin in FF isn't much like the Norse Wotan except for the name, his spear (Gungnir), and Sleipnir.
    Zantetsuken actually isn't from any mythology.

    First it's actually three words. Zan Tetsu Ken. Ken being the generic term for blade in japanese, Tetsu meaning Iron, and Zan roughly meaning cutting or cutter. So it means "Iron-Cutting Blade" in english with Shin-Zantetsuken meaning True Iron Cutting Blade. And is any of several near mythical historical katana that were able to cut (or more likely break) another Katana's blade on contact.

    Odin was said in game to have taken Zantetsuken as a war prize from an Eastern Auri Warrior he defeated who had the honor of being the first to actually damage his armor. So presumably The Gungnir Lance (Odin's Spear in Mythology) would have been his weapon prior to him obtaining the Zantetsuken.

    Hmm, I just remembered that Yojimbo from FF10 has a large weapon with the same ability The "Zanmato". Perhaps the scaled up blade could be called Zanmato.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Zantetsuken actually isn't from any mythology.
    Right. I just didn't feel the need to go into the details because the point was just that it doesn't actually have anything to do with Odin mythologically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    Right. I just didn't feel the need to go into the details because the point was just that it doesn't actually have anything to do with Odin mythologically.
    I actually don't recall any norse god weilding a sword come to think of it. Spears, axes, and bows sure, and of course Mjolnir being Thor's Iconic Hammer. But I don't recall any sword wielding Aesir or Vanir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    I actually don't recall any norse god weilding a sword come to think of it. Spears, axes, and bows sure, and of course Mjolnir being Thor's Iconic Hammer. But I don't recall any sword wielding Aesir or Vanir.
    None of the Norse gods do that I recall, no. Swords are actually pretty rare in ancient mythology generally.
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