need ranks be more strongers

[NaoTenbe]

On my server, we have a few choice individuals and their FC and linkshell who are blacklisted from other linkshells because of pulling early.
And yet when these guys are on, they're first to the S ranks to pull, and a lot of A ranks if they actually choose to go to them.
Part of it is there's pros in their group that know the tricks to spawning S ranks, but also I think they're using the addon that is technicly illegal.
And yet people still use it, and there's no idea how much, or if there's actual banning as a result of using this client.
The question then becomes, do you want to risk your game account on the off chance SE figures out you have this, and bans you, or do you want to get to the A/S ranks in time to kill them?

[Alisi]

The question then becomes, do you want to risk your game account on the off chance SE figures out you have this, and bans you, or do you want to get to the A/S ranks in time to kill them?

Oh, it's worse than that tho. A lot of these 3rd party apps send the info to their website when a hunt is found. You don't have to risk having the app. You just go to the page, find your server, and just reload. On a big server, there's bound to be people with the app on so most people don't even have to risk a ban. They just reload the website.

I think that's what's really the biggest issue here. Sure, you'll have those willing to risk a ban to run them but most people won't. Those people who won't feel like it's not cheating to reload a site. How can anyone who doesn't use apps/website compete with that? Especially when the people who use these apps/sites are generally the people who pull 30 seconds after they get there.

I've been noticing a really bizarre (and very telling) thing lately. I'll be camping in a map for red scrips (while I watch a movie or what not) and suddenly there will be a ton of people saying 'inv for hunt' but no hunt was shouted. It's obvious they've just warped into the map and no one in the map has called it so how are these people getting their info? I could see people not shouting in the map being an occasional oversight but to have it on almost every map I'm in? Either there's some ultra secretive LS I'm not on or these people are getting this info from somewhere else. I dunno. It sounds stupid, I know.

[Anubis_Nephthys]

Got to be a troll.

[NaoTenbe]

Alisi: Those people warping in are getting shouts out from someone in their linkshell that an A or S rank is there.
If you're not in the LS, then you're not getting that info. As far as them asking for an invite, that's just people being lazy and not looking or making parties yet.
Usually you can get into one or more of these LS by asking around, and having them go through and do some purges on people who are past the 30 day mark as far as attendance goes, if that's what you want.

It may be just me, but I think demand is quickly dying down for A and S ranks. I'm seeing less people showing up for hunts now, at least on weekdays. Weekends are still jam packed, but that's to be expected. I still think there needs to be some defense mechanic for old world bosses to last just a bit longer, to make them more challenging for larger groups.

[Alisi]

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Oh, I know about LS's. Don't need to explain that. It's just weird that there will be NO shouts in the map where the hunt is found and then you get a whole ton of people asking for invites. Usually, when you find a hunt, you shout in the map and send the info to FC and LSs. I can see someone forgetting to shout in the map once in a while but, lately, this is all I'm seeing. So why aren't they shouting in the map? Either they're all assholes who only post to FC/LS or they aren't in the map when it's found and the first calls go out to FC/LSs instead of the map. As I said, I can see people being lazy every now or then, or forgetting to shout in a map, but for most hunts? It's strange...

[FunkyBunch]

Oh, I know about LS's. Don't need to explain that. It's just weird that there will be NO shouts in the map where the hunt is found and then you get a whole ton of people asking for invite. Either they're all assholes who only post to FC/LS or they aren't in the map when it's found and the first calls go out to FC/LSs instead of the map. As I said, I can see people being lazy every now or then, or forgetting to shout in a map, but for most hunts? It's strange...

I know with my FC and LS, it's because we want to give them time to get to the area so we don't shout it right until they're around because there are too many insta-pullers. It goes Party, FC, LS, wait, Shout and most of the time by the time you shout, there are people asking for invites because your party or whatever is full before your LS or FC get there.

[Ikki_Wiki]

There is no problem with the Hunts, you could argue about the lvl 50 ones but they ARE lvl 50, not 60, and would stay that way because people who don't have heavensward have the right to hunt too.
Hunts were never designed as a server-size zerg, they are meant to be hunted and killed by small groups of players, the community is responsible for organizing and creating linkshells dedicated to hunt together and share positions when something is found so more people can benefit from the rewards. It not necesary have to work like that.
This is the cycle every other patch when hunts become viable to upgrade gear, or in this case to grind relics. "Casual" hunters show up, they pull early, other "casuals" hunters complain and demmand for a "fix". Meanwhile those like me, who enjoy hunts even when they aren't usefull at all except for aetheryte tickets, either accept things will stay like that untill people get their gear. Or stop hunting on prime hours to avoid them.

[MistyMew]

I doubt they would change the hp/str of the hunt mobs. Sadly things do get hectic and early pullers come out of the woodwork the moment hunt seals are relevant again. It would be great if se did adjust things according to popularity but in all honesy thats never going to happen in this game...it just wont. (years and we still cant even sign up for df with a chocobo out errrrr...good lord we are not going to get any adjustment on hunts especially dynamic scaling)

You just gotta dive in the the madness when they are popular and try your best to get credit. I would rather they change how credit is given, allowing solo people to get alot more credit easily and also for those that arrive 20 seconds after it is found instead of 10...and its already 90% dead -.- ... but that wont happen either unfortunately.

I only hunt when they are relevant, could not even imagine hunting the same mobs every few hours endlessly forever...I would find that a complete snoozefest and waste of time, now I do enjoy them when the seals are worth something to me though, very much enjoy scouting and finding them tbh!! But only when relevant .