Anima Weapon Gil Cost

[SinisterJointss]

Wouldn't you consider it stupid if a highly relevant crafting content required you to gather TT cards and farm NPCs for drops, breed a top class racing chocobo (to grill it for a culinarian recipe, of course), level all battle classes to 50 and three to 60, win X verminion tournaments or acquire a certain PvP rank, "then" gather enough wolf marks to buy items?

I'd find that stupid, personally.

Your analogies are so far fetched its not even funny. Crafting has been a part of battle classes since day one. To even try and compare it like you are shows how much you are reaching.

No, I have already explained my post, but I guess you don't want to go back a few pages to see - or you missed it, fair enough.

It's stupid, because it doesn't actually add any content for crafters, it's not making things more engaging for them. It is merely requiring them to make a relatively easy craft, so they can make millions of gil transferred to them by people who don't craft. It's argued that it makes crafting relevant again, but it doesn't. It makes a handful of random items useful, but not crafting as a whole. It's not engaging, it's not content, it's not fun, it's only a way to transfer gil from some players to another.

I don't have crafters or gatherers, because I personally think the implementation in this game of crafting and gathering is abysmal. I've never seen something less fun in a video game before. I talked to people to determine if it improves at higher levels, but everything that I hate about it is actually amplified at higher levels rather than reduced. Regardless of this, it's irrelevant to the conversation.

TLDR What is stupid is that this doesn't add anything of substance, and that it's an unnecessary gil transfer.

Crafting content is crafting content. I wouldnt expect you to understand simply because you have none. Crafting hasnt been usefull since 3.0 (minus the blue crafting gear) because SE took away the crafts that we used to get (accessories) to help with battle content.

You dont find it engaging, you dont find it fun, you dont find it to be content. Speak for yourself because I certainly find it fun and engaging content. I LIKE crafting in this game. Does it make your feels about it invalid? No it dont. But to sit and complain about it because you need to rely on a crafter to complete a step in a relic weapon is silly.

Remember, YOU chose not to level a gatherer or crafter, your choice. How did you NOT see this coming is the better question lol

I personally find the requirements of the battle tokens to be absurd and you know what? I just CHOOSE not to rush it, I CHOOSE to do it at my own pace, and its a choice that I am happy with.

I'd say any content that makes you feel like you're working and not playing a game is stupid content, but then there are the people on live on that type of content.

Thats funny, it literally took me like 4 hours to gather and craft what was needed for the relic. For the ones I didnt specialize in, I asked friends to do. In turn they asked me to do theirs.

The battle, and daily part is far far worse and takes far far longer than the minimal crafting components

[Colorful]

Thats funny, it literally took me like 4 hours to gather and craft what was needed for the relic. For the ones I didnt specialize in, I asked friends to do. In turn they asked me to do theirs.

The battle, and daily part is far far worse and takes far far longer than the minimal crafting components

Your point being? You already had those classes leveled and others don't, nor do they want to level them as again, they dislike doing that activity. The other side of the grind is worse I'll agree (even starting gathering from scratch, at least there's variety there), but who said that was decent design? It's awful, but then again I've just decided to not do the Anima altogether. Not like I raid, that 1-5% DPS difference isn't going to make much of a difference. That, and the fact that this is only the first step, with there being two steps back to back from 3.25 to 3.3... yeah.

[Kaurie]

Crafting content is crafting content. I wouldnt expect you to understand simply because you have none. Crafting hasnt been usefull since 3.0 (minus the blue crafting gear) because SE took away the crafts that we used to get (accessories) to help with battle content.

I understand, because I have friends that craft and have paid some attention to crafting complaint threads etc. This is in addition to my limited low level crafting.

You dont find it engaging, you dont find it fun, you dont find it to be content. Speak for yourself because I certainly find it fun and engaging content. I LIKE crafting in this game. Does it make your feels about it invalid? No it dont. But to sit and complain about it because you need to rely on a crafter to complete a step in a relic weapon is silly.

I am not sure if you misunderstood me. I did not suggest that crafting is not engaging, content or fun (as a whole, it's not for me, but I am speaking generally). I suggested the crafting pieces for the relic aren't.

Remember, YOU chose not to level a gatherer or crafter, your choice. How did you NOT see this coming is the better question lol

Me choosing to not level a crafter is irrelevant. I chose what to do in game that I found fun, it's simple really. How did I not see this coming? I guess I did see it coming, they've shown time and time again that they favour arbitrary sinks, gates and locks over providing engaging substance. Whether I saw it coming or not doesn't negate my ability to think it is stupid. I thought about adding analogies here, but I feel that I've made myself fairly clear.

I personally find the requirements of the battle tokens to be absurd and you know what? I just CHOOSE not to rush it, I CHOOSE to do it at my own pace, and its a choice that I am happy with.

What do you mean by battle tokens? Do you mean the unidentifiable items? This is also stupid, I agree.

Thats funny, it literally took me like 4 hours to gather and craft what was needed for the relic. For the ones I didnt specialize in, I asked friends to do. In turn they asked me to do theirs.

I literally spent an hour talking to people on reddit, forums, groupme (FC mates) on what I needed to do. In order to not have to talk about it any more, I decided to buy everything. You see, not only do I find crafting horrible, but even just talking about it is a miserable experience for me.


I'd like to reiterate. I have already got my 210 SMN weapon, and am just over 10% of my way done my 200->210 BLM quest. It's not that this is difficult by any means. It's just stupid.