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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werhusky View Post
    My costs for anima were like 200k

    - Gathered all base mats myself or had a friend to help me
    - Used my linkshells and friends to get things crafted

    Costs are 100k tip, tiny crowns, mistletoes and all the teleports.
    Most mats even drop from maps and HQ i150 gear is enough for getting the diadem items HQ...

    At the first sight it was OMG how expensive but if you put in time and have good friends it isn't 8m (would've been 4m on my server if bought off MB). But maybe I'm just lucky ^^

    Btw listed it all up on here
    You're more than lucky. Being well connected with other high level gatherers and crafters almost makes you an exception to the rule as 3/5 players (Solo, Small FC, Defunct FC, ETC) don't have those kinds of connections. So congratulations on actually being able to do the quest how it was intended (No Sarcasm, completely serious)

    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    This would be a fair accusation - if the devs had ever claimed the Relic or Anima weapons were casual. They haven't. Because they're not. Not even remotely. And they were never intended to be.

    They involve activities that are within the abilities of most casual players, but the long grind puts them WELL outside the casual category.

    It is players on these forums - not developers! - that keep insisting Relic/Anima are meant for casual players, in spite of the overwhelming evidence against this claim.
    Come to think of it, The Devs almost always refer to the groups as "Raiders" and "Non-Raiders" rather than Hard Core and Casuals. ........

    Pardon me, while I re examine every things I've ever though about this MMO. <Leaves and beats head on nearest wall>
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Being well connected with other high level gatherers and crafters almost makes you an exception to the rule as 3/5 players (Solo, Small FC, Defunct FC, ETC) don't have those kinds of connections. So congratulations on actually being able to do the quest how it was intended (No Sarcasm, completely serious)
    You don't really need high level gatherers and crafters for this. You need the ilvl150 hq gear melded for stats for crafting and the master III book(which is easy to get) and you need the ilvl150 hq gear on gatherers again melded for stats to hit the nodes required - yes the inital ilvl150 gear and the melds might be a bit of an upfront cost for most people but it's nowhere near high level - not now.

    And for those that have issues with making gil - search for the green gil guide - it will show you all the gil fountains in the game you can use to make gil - withouth gathering or crafting and how much you can make per week just doing that.
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    I would have prefered a flat 100k rate from npcs like the old relic had at one point. Even that would have been better than this or they be non specialist recipis cause that lowers the supply of them significantly.
    Obtaining items by spending alot of time is one thing and obtaining items by leveling gatherers/crafters and/or spending alot of gil are two completely different things. If im gonna spend time/gil aquiring mats that could be sold for profit or spend that much gil... id rather just buy/create a weapon or armor utilizing crafting itself, not a quest with items... just let crafters make rare i200 weapons for tons of gil instead... its the same...
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    I would have prefered a flat 100k rate from npcs like the old relic had at one point.
    100k gil item from NPC + 200k gil item from crafters was it, if you thought crafters were not involved in that step
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    100k gil item from NPC + 200k gil item from crafters was it, if you thought crafters were not involved in that step
    I knew they were involved, I was just referring to the 100k gil items you buy from NPCS with fixated prices which is actually reasonable cause everyones going through the same thing. The market items went through the same crap it did that time as it is now. I even didn't mind the 80000 seals grind in comparison.

    There was alot of ways they could have done this step and it just fell flat for most of the community. Yoshi said he was worried about adding challenging content because there would be some people who can't complete it. Well he added extremely costly content that some people have no idea how to fund. I simply refuse to do it the way it is even having the funds to do it, period. If it never gets nerfed, then so be it. I've got other things I'd rather be putting that much effort and gil into.
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