Can we please stop locking content out of DF?

[Andrea]

Are you suggesting that players can somehow play through a whole duty without actually learning it from the experience? The "carry" ensures that they are able to go through it properly and adjust to all of the mechanics in a safer environment than full randoms/multiple newcomers.

You can indeed get carried through stuff without dying. For example, Me and another 6 people queue for A1S. We say get a dragoon. The dragoon doesnt die but does like 400 dps. That is a carry that didn't involve death.

Also im sorry but people that get carried 99% of the time probably don't even realize whats going on around them. Some, sure might understand and learn, but the majority would just look at it as an easy clear and learn nothing

[Kaurie]

You can indeed get carried through stuff without dying. For example, Me and another 6 people queue for A1S. We say get a dragoon. The dragoon doesnt die but does like 400 dps. That is a carry that didn't involve death.

Also im sorry but people that get carried 99% of the time probably don't even realize whats going on around them. Some, sure might understand and learn, but the majority would just look at it as an easy clear and learn nothing

Usually, the 4 DPS each have to grab 1 add each - in which case the DRG would need to learn to do this, or risk wiping everyone.

Although, I agree with your second point. Many people play poorly, but use the evidence of their clears of their skill. It's clear from the lack of their skill that they were carried in some fashion.

[Andrea]

Usually, the 4 DPS each have to grab 1 add each - in which case the DRG would need to learn to do this, or risk wiping everyone.

Although, I agree with your second point. Many people play poorly, but use the evidence of their clears of their skill. It's clear from the lack of their skill that they were carried in some fashion.

My example probably wasn't the best example to use but yeah I agree with people using clears as evidence of their skill when it could have just been a carry.

[Callback]

You can indeed get carried through stuff without dying. For example, Me and another 6 people queue for A1S. We say get a dragoon. The dragoon doesnt die but does like 400 dps. That is a carry that didn't involve death.

Also im sorry but people that get carried 99% of the time probably don't even realize whats going on around them. Some, sure might understand and learn, but the majority would just look at it as an easy clear and learn nothing

That seems improbable in a game this simple. How is it even physically possible to do that little in a game where "combat" is just point-and-click and pressing keys in the right order? I refuse to believe that it is possible to fail to master a duty in a single run through.

[Andrea]

That seems improbable in a game this simple. How is it even physically possible to do that little in a game where "combat" is just point-and-click and pressing keys in the right order? I refuse to believe that it is possible to fail to master a duty in a single run through.

Are we playing the same game...? Hell people still dont know about the bees in Sunken temple for example.

You are giving the community far too much credit to think someone wont "Fail to master a duty in a single run."

[Kaurie]

Are we playing the same game...? Hell people still dont know about the bees in Sunken temple for example.

You are giving the community far too much credit to think someone wont "Fail to master a duty in a single run."

Based off the majority of his posts, I would say he is just trolling Andrea.

[Callback]

Are we playing the same game...? Hell people still dont know about the bees in Sunken temple for example.

You are giving the community far too much credit to think someone wont "Fail to master a duty in a single run."

Sorry, I forgot that we had the "babby's first vidyagame" community and that somehow in a combat system that lets you pretend you're actually playing some people can still get confused.

[m3eansean]

Sorry, I forgot that we had the "babby's first vidyagame" community and that somehow in a combat system that lets you pretend you're actually playing some people can still get confused.

Considering how you only have one battle class to 60, in Void Ark gear and not a single piece of raiding gear (Alex Savage or Thordan EX) you haven't quite seen the challenging fights this game can present.

[Callback]

Considering how you only have one battle class to 60, in Void Ark gear and not a single piece of raiding gear (Alex Savage or Thordan EX) you haven't quite seen the challenging fights this game can present.

Only for lack of a group who wants to bother. If only it were in DF...

Expert roulette is too boring/grindy to bother with eso gear. I meet min ilv for the whole game, that's plenty. I just need to run it now.

And if you seriously expect me to get 2 combat classes up you are insane. Who has time for a grind that boring? The length wouldn't be THAT bad if there was even an ounce of satisfying gameplay to be had through it, but there's not. Just spamming point-and-click not-combat for an eternity. I can't even stomach LNC enough to get b4b. It's not worth it. It's too BORING.

[m3eansean]

Only for lack of a group who wants to bother. If only it were in DF...

Expert roulette is too boring/grindy to bother with eso gear. I meet min ilv for the whole game, that's plenty. I just need to run it now.

And if you seriously expect me to get 2 combat classes up you are insane. Who has time for a grind that boring? The length wouldn't be THAT bad if there was even an ounce of satisfying gameplay to be had through it, but there's not. Just spamming point-and-click not-combat for an eternity. I can't even stomach LNC enough to get b4b. It's not worth it. It's too BORING.

Since your a ninja in non-optimal gear without blood for blood, I wouldn't want to group up with you either to be honest. You would be a strain on any group in regards to dps checks in Thordan and Alex Savage. Sounds like you despise the game anyway, so its probably not the game for you.