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  1. #891
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    LOL First I don't feel "poorly" and Second SE seems to be aiming in that direction. Or then why would they take accuracy from all Healer gears? Why would they be changing tanks damage calculation? They want tanks to stop using slaying accessories. So in other words they are starting to move forward in the direction of defining each job role. If they wanted to get rid of the Holy Trinity they would had made jobs like GW2 does.
    It's believed VIT will replace STR as the damage modifier. This means nothing about tanks' DPS will change, they will simply get the benefits of having both good DPS and a boatload of health. Ironically, this will make healers able to DPS more because they can allow tanks' HP to dip even further.
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    Ninety pages, let's reach a hundred!

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  3. #893
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    Raein Tilgung
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    DPS might not be the same if they don't give it the same impact as STR. And VIT might not scale in HP at the current rate it does either.

    They'll need to be careful with how they balance it. Difficulty going down in Midas Savage + current classes potential would cause for some potentially broken set-ups if Tank get the best of both worlds at once. 22k-ish HP with 1K-ish DPS (at current ilvl if they don' adjust how things scale) is a little obscene.
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  4. #894
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    DPS might not be the same if they don't give it the same impact as STR. And VIT might not scale in HP at the current rate it does either.

    They'll need to be careful with how they balance it. Difficulty going down in Midas Savage + current classes potential would cause for some potentially broken set-ups if Tank get the best of both worlds at once. 22k-ish HP with 1K-ish DPS (at current ilvl if they don' adjust how things scale) is a little obscene.
    Fair point, and I hope you're right if that's the direction they go. I just have a feeling they might make things overly easy this patch cycle because A3S crushed a lot of spirits.
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  5. #895
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anemone_Valesti View Post
    Now I generally keep to myself regarding someone elses game play in game, because I don't know exactly why they play the way they do and why they aren't using all the tools, and Im not even going to pretend to know. They also aren't obligated to tell me and some people react violently when they percieve what "Can" be simply advice as being told what to do or how to play...I understand this. I'll be lying though if I said I wasn't bothered seeing a Healer Run to the end of the Hall and jumping twice as if trying to tell us to hurry up while the Tank was full Health, Mobs Half Health, and No Dots on any of them (And it was all the Mobs before the Boss so it wasn't like the Healer telling us to come pull More). It's Hard to tell if someone is really trying, but situations like the one I just described doesn't help any cases lol.
    Thank you for this...!
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    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Fair point, and I hope you're right if that's the direction they go. I just have a feeling they might make things overly easy this patch cycle because A3S crushed a lot of spirits.
    Players crushed spirits also. I'm sure you seen all the complaints about how easy it was to clear Coil and such early on after release. I never attempted A3S, but based on the reactions, it's what players asked for: difficult-to-beat content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    The problem was that they seemingly tried to balance it around the world first players. Who perform at levels beyond any midcore raider will likely/care to achieve. Basically making it a near impossible fight for a large majority of the midcore players.
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  8. #898
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    The problem was that they seemingly tried to balance it around the world first players. Who perform at levels beyond any midcore raider will likely/care to achieve. Basically making it a near impossible fight for a large majority of the midcore players.
    at least all the healers here care to achieve that lvl of player skill. but now they have to nerf alex savage? how is that even possible? the healer dps were not even calculatet into the dmg checks D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    at least all the healers here care to achieve that lvl of player skill. but now they have to nerf alex savage? how is that even possible? the healer dps were not even calculatet into the dmg checks D:
    yeah that's bullshit. you really haven't noticed they lie to make bad players feel less bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    at least all the healers here care to achieve that lvl of player skill. but now they have to nerf alex savage? how is that even possible? the healer dps were not even calculatet into the dmg checks D:
    At least quote it properly... talk about intentionally misquoting to support your arguement.
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