Suggestion: Savage Blade Cleave

[Dotsusama]

You said it wouldn't be like Overpower, but what you are describing is exactly like Overpower, without one of that skill's weaknesses: it would not interrupt your enmity combo.

Flash's enmity generation is not insignificant, does not cost TP, does not interrupt your combo, and does not require enemies to be in a cone before you. It also blinds enemies which, if they aren't already immune and you're tanking a lot of them, is handy for mitigation.

I don't see why you would need a cleave component.

[Synestra]

I don't see why you would need a cleave component.

For added AoE dps that PLD's currently lack royally.

[Launched]

For added AoE dps that PLD's currently lack royally.

But why does PLD need aoe dps? It got through 2.x just fine without it, and many people even claimed it was a better choice for big pulls because of block, blind and Hallowed. Even now in 3.x it was the best choice for A2S MT, and it gained a decent amount of trash damage by being able to rotate Goring Blade under Fight of Flight. Tanks don't need to have all the same aoe potential.

[Shurrikhan]

But why does PLD need aoe dps? It got through 2.x just fine without it, and many people even claimed it was a better choice for big pulls because of block, blind and Hallowed. Even now in 3.x it was the best choice for A2S MT, and it gained a decent amount of trash damage by being able to rotate Goring Blade under Fight of Flight. Tanks don't need to have all the same aoe potential.

It didn't get through anything apart from OT single-target "fine", though. It's only advantage as MT was more at-the-ready mitigation tools than WAR, and a faintly higher heal efficiency. Dungeon tanking was a Warrior's game. Dealing significant damage as MT was the Warrior's thing.

They've since given Warrior further AoE dps, DRK heavy AoE dps, and left PLD with only CoS. We generally expect these gaps to close with future developments and increased options, not widen due to negligence.

[Link594]

You said it wouldn't be like Overpower, but what you are describing is exactly like Overpower, without one of that skill's weaknesses: it would not interrupt your enmity combo.

Flash's enmity generation is not insignificant, does not cost TP, does not interrupt your combo, and does not require enemies to be in a cone before you. It also blinds enemies which, if they aren't already immune and you're tanking a lot of them, is handy for mitigation.

I don't see why you would need a cleave component.

Well, Overpower has 120 potency and its spammable. It also has a range that extends beyond melee. This cleave would be locked behind a combo, so it would be 200 potency every 7.5 sec (2.5 for first). Sure overpower costs TP, but it would also do more damage if you spammed it.

I understand Flash does great aoe emnity, but it doesnt do any damage and its useless for solo play. The reason for this suggestion isnt to improve aoe threat but aoe dps.

[Pells]

Well, Overpower has 120 potency and its spammable. It also has a range that extends beyond melee. This cleave would be locked behind a combo, so it would be 200 potency every 7.5 sec (2.5 for first). Sure overpower costs TP, but it would also do more damage if you spammed it.

I understand Flash does great aoe emnity, but it doesnt do any damage and its useless for solo play. The reason for this suggestion isnt to improve aoe threat but aoe dps.

If you really needed the ae, you wouldn't have to round out the combo with Halone or Royal Authority. So just Fast --> Savage, making the reuse time 5 seconds.

[Link594]

2.0 we had cure/stoneskin/bloodbath/protect/sword oath plus all our cds
3.0 we have all of the above plus clemency... kinda op for soloing if you ask me...
protect while levelling is lol?!

None of this really helps us with DPS tho. Sure its strong defensive options, but none of those are AoE or even DPS related abilities. It takes awhile to kill stuff and it would be nicer if we can contribute more to the overall damage in the group too.

If you really needed the ae, you wouldn't have to round out the combo with Halone or Royal Authority. So just Fast --> Savage, making the reuse time 5 seconds.

Yeah, I realized that on one of my posts in the main page. I think if you made the AoE weaker then the 3rd ability in the combo, it wouldn't be viable. So like having the max possible potency for Savage Blade be less then Rage of Halone so it would never be a DPS increase to cut the 3rd ability out.

On a side note, I edited the OP with some reflections on what I think were good points some of you guys have brought up. Notably cutting out the 3rd ability for increased cleave dps and other classes having cleave looking animations.