In NA, FFXI released one year after it did in JP

[Neptune]

SE has some of the best ideas for their MMOs, but they fail at implementation. Their ideas with FFXIV are awesome and I doubt anyone would argue that. But throw in problems with controls, UI lag, etc then they don't look as good. I feel like when people say something like "FFXIV combat sucks", they are talking about issues with targetting, engaging, controls, action lag, etc and not the concept of combat itself.

Thanks for bringing some sense into the equation!

[Neptune]

6 months before US release, a viable auction house was implemented, as well as fully functional chocobos and airship

The NA beta was about 6 months before the release, if I remember right and.. yeah you're right! 6 months after release the game was looking a lot better than this game is right now, a year after release. Just sayin'.

[Nero]

The NA beta was about 6 months before the release, if I remember right and.. yeah you're right! 6 months after release the game was looking a lot better than this game is right now, a year after release. Just sayin'.

You still dont know what you are talking about, like i said a couple posts ago. If you point out that FFXI was "looking better in beta" than FFXIV is right now, then bring on your facts. If you cant fact out things, you obviously fail with these kind of comments...

"I am right, cause i say so"..

is totally fitting your current attitude.

[XxOstiaxX]

You still dont know what you are talking about, like i said a couple posts ago. If you point out that FFXI was "looking better in beta" than FFXIV is right now, then bring on your facts. If you cant fact out things, you obviously fail with these kind of comments...

"I am right, cause i say so"..

is totally fitting your current attitude.

You are the one that does not knows what he is talking about, FFXI was miles ahead of FFXIV at the same point in time, that is a year after release in japan, you also have to take in consideration that when FFXI launched, MMO'S where not mainstream, so SE had a chance to experiment, to implement their idea's(Like having no AH for istance) FFXIV launched 10 years later, when MMO'S are very popular, when there is a giant tittle that has 11 million subscribers, and every other MMO that launches and ends up in the burner atleast sell's 2-3mil boxes.

Ofcourse FFXI looked better by betta than this game did, it was a different time for MMO'S

[Charismatic]

This game doesn't need an AH, it has it's own system.

FFXI had only trading and Bazaar system, it had no market system.

what are you talking about? ffxi had AH... 1 month after release. It's right there on the page.

[AsterBarnivere]

FFXI Launch =/= Justification for FFXIV's launch

FFXI had a year to improve on the Japanese release and once improvements were made, it was fairly polished and ready to go to NA and EU with content, chocobos, airships, AH etc.

FFXIV released simultaneously 10 years later and has no excuse for the state it is in..

nuff said.

[Jennestia]

what are you talking about? ffxi had AH... 1 month after release. It's right there on the page.

In response to your point about:

FFXI had the AH up less than a month after the game came online (people are still begging for one here).

XI had no market system so it got an AH, XIV has a market system already. Pretty straightfoward response to something you wrote.

[Charismatic]

So then are you trying to say that a game can't have both? I hope that isn't what you are saying because the market wards aren't anything more than structured bazaaring.
FFXI already had bazaars and AH which proves that they can work together.


Please please please tell me you aren't trying to say these awful market wards are a good excuse for not having an auction house.
There's plenty of people (including myself) that don't agree with that at all.

I suppose I missed what you were trying to say because I thought it was so absurd that I assumed you couldn't have meant that but it seems that you did.

[Morningstar]

She's just making excuses for the developers not including standard features in their game that has already been out for a year. Of course FFXI had an AH and bazaar system and it was much more efficient than the wards system ffxiv has.

[KiriA500]

So then are you trying to say that a game can't have both? I hope that isn't what you are saying because the market wards aren't anything more than structured bazaaring.
FFXI already had bazaars and AH which proves that they can work together.


Please please please tell me you aren't trying to say these awful market wards are a good excuse for not having an auction house.
There's plenty of people (including myself) that don't agree with that at all.

I suppose I missed what you were trying to say because I thought it was so absurd that I assumed you couldn't have meant that but it seems that you did.

Market Ward = Auction House.

You can search for your item, you can see who sells it. The two differences are you have to run your lazy ass across two GIGANTICALLY tiny rooms while looking for an NPC with a different colored name and a red star conveniently located next to the name, and that there's no price history (my only problem with it).

Both games have bazaars.

There you go. A searchable option, and a non-searchable one.