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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with FFXIV airships.

    They were designed the way they are to be in accordance with the lore and general gameworld design. If you stop respecting lore, then you get CON=WHM (lol fail). And then the game starts to become inconsistent and gimmicky.

    They look fine to me:

    http://www.ffxivcore.com/index.php?a...attach_id=5233

    http://www.ffxivcore.com/index.php?a...attach_id=5232

    FFXIV city states only just began airship travel, but their naval ships are much more sophisticated. If they had fleets of huge airships, garlean empire wouldn't seem like such a great threat to the game, since huge overpowering airships are their specialty and intimidation-factor.
    For all the people that say this guy doesn't post anything good, pay attention, because the man is speaking some sense!
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  2. #42
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    Doesn't anyone pay attention to the actual OP?

    http://www.arthursclipart.org/trees/...llow%20log.gif

    http://daveshackleford.com/wp-conten...1/01/log-3.jpg

    OP wants more detail in airship, not more stuff or different size or whatever
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObeiKinstar View Post
    Doesn't anyone pay attention to the actual OP?

    http://www.arthursclipart.org/trees/...llow%20log.gif

    http://daveshackleford.com/wp-conten...1/01/log-3.jpg

    OP wants more detail in airship, not more stuff or different size or whatever
    Yeah, I got that... Not everything needs to be super ornate. Personally, I thought the airships in FFXI were pretty ugly. I like the more simple style on the ones I've seen in FFXIV so far.
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  4. #44
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    I agree.

    I love the wood and balloon basic design, but the details and textures are just so lame. Examples from both FFIX and XI show how you can take wooden designs and add all kinds of fancy carvings and inlays. The balloons could easily be given a more interesting texture showing intricate painting and such. The worst part is it clashes with everything else we own that's so detailed, like THM scepters, decorated armor and shields, laces and brooches on robes, etc. Your average adventurer equipment is more intricately crafted than a ship that flies through the air.

    If anything the lack of technology in Eorzea should mean more decoration, because each airship is an expensive piece of craftsmanship, while Garlean airships are likely mass-produced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    I agree.

    I love the wood and balloon basic design, but the details and textures are just so lame. Examples from both FFIX and XI show how you can take wooden designs and add all kinds of fancy carvings and inlays. The balloons could easily be given a more interesting texture showing intricate painting and such. The worst part is it clashes with everything else we own that's so detailed, like THM scepters, decorated armor and shields, laces and brooches on robes, etc. Your average adventurer equipment is more intricately crafted than a ship that flies through the air.

    If anything the lack of technology in Eorzea should mean more decoration, because each airship is an expensive piece of craftsmanship, while Garlean airships are likely mass-produced.
    A texture can be detailed without being overly colourful and decorative. If I wear everything in my wardrobe, I'm not more fashionable for it.
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  6. #46
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    I for one am happy about the modest design. It fits more with the "auto transport" they're implementing with their arrival. How awkward would it be to see a gigantic ship fly away JUST because you came on board? This seems more personal, and less time-wasting (ala FFXI waiting 10-15 mins for the ship if you were unlucky to miss the flight, waiting a few minutes for people to board, departure CS, 3-5 minutes for the trip, arrival CS *phew*). Plus, remember just BARELY missing the ship in FFXI? I remember quite a few times being steps away from it :P
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    I'm also going to throw my hat in for the more austere design of XIV's being great.

    The Airships in FFXI (and pretty much all other FF's) were over-designed and overwrought. More decoration does not make a boat look better, it just makes it look cluttered and visually unappealing.

    give me boats that look like boats, not like your grandmother's end-table

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    I agree.

    I love the wood and balloon basic design, but the details and textures are just so lame. Examples from both FFIX and XI show how you can take wooden designs and add all kinds of fancy carvings and inlays. The balloons could easily be given a more interesting texture showing intricate painting and such. The worst part is it clashes with everything else we own that's so detailed, like THM scepters, decorated armor and shields, laces and brooches on robes, etc. Your average adventurer equipment is more intricately crafted than a ship that flies through the air.

    If anything the lack of technology in Eorzea should mean more decoration, because each airship is an expensive piece of craftsmanship, while Garlean airships are likely mass-produced.
    look at a finely crafted silver tea service in the real world...now look at a nuclear powered Super Carrier...one is decorated beautiffully, one is big, gray and ugly as sin and has no outward decoration.

    now which one of these can cost as low as $100 and which one costs over $1,000,000,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keftenk View Post
    Doesn't matter to me much since you can't actually ride them, its just instant transport. Maybe I'll care when we can ride them.
    from what i read from the dev posts about it, you CAN choose to instant transport OR enjoy the ride. its an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObeiKinstar View Post
    Doesn't anyone pay attention to the actual OP?

    http://www.arthursclipart.org/trees/...llow%20log.gif

    http://daveshackleford.com/wp-conten...1/01/log-3.jpg

    OP wants more detail in airship, not more stuff or different size or whatever
    I for one like the sleeker and more aerodynamic style of the new airships.
    Besides, the detail is in the metal borders like everything else in this game. Most wood in this game lacks ornate designs and seems to serve as a complementary contrast to the more complex designs on the metal parts.
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