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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
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    Because they've literally never had their relic weapon be on-par with the current raid tier at release, at most you can have it maybe a step or two behind it. The closest it ever got was having Zeta weapons be ilvl125 at launch of 2.4, making them slightly better than unupgraded mid-raid weapons.

    I'll completely agree that the timing of the release was the poor decision cherry on the poor decision cake, but this game has seen nothing but poor decisions for the past 6 months.
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    I m mad, because SE didnt learned from mistakes and just gave us the same uncreative, grindy and absolutely lame questline, like it was with zodiac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    I m mad, because SE didnt learned from mistakes and just gave us the same uncreative, grindy and absolutely lame questline, like it was with zodiac.
    If they wanted a way to disgust people from doing old content they couldn't have done it better.
    If they wanted people to grind and having fun at the same time this is the 2nd big fail of the late 2015 with Diadem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseBoots View Post
    Because they've literally never had their relic weapon be on-par with the current raid tier at release, at most you can have it maybe a step or two behind it. The closest it ever got was having Zeta weapons be ilvl125 at launch of 2.4, making them slightly better than unupgraded mid-raid weapons.

    I'll completely agree that the timing of the release was the poor decision cherry on the poor decision cake, but this game has seen nothing but poor decisions for the past 6 months.
    Zeta was I135 and bis for a decent while actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    Zeta was I135 and bis for a decent while actually.
    Zeta became I135 February 24th 2015, 4 days under 4 months after the release of The Final Coil of Bahamut and it's ilvl135 Dreadwyrm weapons. My point was that they usually stagger the final upgrade for that ilvl tier until a good couple months after the raid has been released.

    You had Zodiacs start in 2.2, and at launch, they got to ilvl100, a tier under upgraded mid-raid weapons. It took until 2.28 for them to come up to par with upgraded mid-raid, but were overall better thanks to customizable stats. Those same weapons didn't become ilvl115 until 2.38, which made them on par with raid weapons for about a month and a half until 2.4 came along.

    If you actually look at how the relic quest-line progressed throughout ARR, the timing of each tier of release in tandem with how old the raid tier is it's almost 1:1.

    Now really, what makes this grind harder to swallow is thanks to the fact that we have 5 ILVLs less to play with than back in A Realm Reborn. If Gordian weapons were 5 ivls higher than they are now, as they should have been, than the final step of Anima could have easily been separated into two parts and split between 3.1 and 3.15. In the perfect world where Gordian weapons were ilvl 215, you could have had a step with half the grind at 3.1 to bring the weapons up to 210, and then in 3.15 have the second half of the grind in place to finally bring them up to ilvl215. This would have also allowed the grind to be spread across more of the game, revitalizing more queues for dead content. If you think about it, as of right now you are almost doing what would have been two full steps of progression for a Zodiac weapon at once for the final step in this tier of Anima.
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    Last edited by HorseBoots; 01-05-2016 at 10:39 PM.