Quote Originally Posted by HorseBoots View Post
The large amount of work required to complete this relic stage is the compromise to get a weapon comparable with the raid weapons. The amount of collective time a team of 8 has to put into raiding to get 1 (technically 2) raid weapons is still far greater than that of one player grinding out their anima. That's even considering some people who will just end up doing roulettes and beast tribe quests every day. People can always just wait it out until the nerf this stage anyway, when they move onto the next stage of tombstone currency you can be assured that those unidentifiables will not be as expensive with Eso.

I'd doubt the next stage will be as grind heavy, as they are giving raid weapons that extra 5 ilvl again, so they don't have to balance that line again. It would still baffle me over how they handled raid weapon ilvl if they didn't make it clear that they decided to throw away years of development experience and feedback to make the worst raid this game has seen.
It's obvious who hasn't actually read the thread when the majority of replies have been pointing out that the grind isn't what people have been complaining about only for you to come in and talk about the grind... You and the OP are totally off the mark as the grind itself was NEVER the problem with this relic. The problem was the completely unimaginative way the grind was implemented coupled with a release timing that had people forced to grind stuff they'd already been grinding for the past six months, for a weapon that will be replaced only a month after obtaining it. It's not how long it takes; it's that it's just not worth the effort given that most will never make much use of the weapon before it's obsolete.

If we have to go to loads of effort to get a raid tier weapon then why didn't we get to do it AT THE SAME TIME as people were bashing their heads against Alex Savage? And don't start making arguments about it stepping on the toes of raiders, because then your argument about the grind having to be comparable to savage no longer holds up.