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    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    I would be for this change, but I think they'd need to mix up the reward system. Currently, 2.x hunts give Cent seals as well as Allied. If they did this, I'd suggest making:

    2.x Hunts give 40 allied seals, 40 poetics
    3.x Hunts give 40 Centurio Seals, 40 law

    Then have Allied seals be purchasable for Bone/Shell
    Then have Centurio seals be purchasable for Ore/Seeds

    raise cap on Centurio seals to 2k, and have the cost be 1k (raise cap so you don't waste seals to hit 1k for buy)
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 01-05-2016 at 02:24 AM.

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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    While we're at it can we turn in unstained mark logs for unidentifiable items too? They're completely worthless to me and a lot of players...
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    Adrian Ryder
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    To be blunt, the fact that we don't use expansion seals to upgrade an expansion relic is mind-boggling on its own. The large bulk of 3.15's relic seems to just be a massive re-trek through ARR content and areas that makes me question why this was delayed in the first place, but that's for another time.

    I don't bother with ARR hunts since a large majority of the A ranks can be soloed let alone an entire group taking them on, they die in seconds. After the dust has cleared, the areas are back to being ghost towns until the next A or S spawns. More options would be nice, but HW hunts are more of the same thing, just tankier.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45 View Post
    To be blunt, the fact that we don't use expansion seals to upgrade an expansion relic is mind-boggling on its own. The large bulk of 3.15's relic seems to just be a massive re-trek through ARR content and areas that makes me question why this was delayed in the first place, but that's for another time.

    I don't bother with ARR hunts since a large majority of the A ranks can be soloed let alone an entire group taking them on, they die in seconds. After the dust has cleared, the areas are back to being ghost towns until the next A or S spawns. More options would be nice, but HW hunts are more of the same thing, just tankier.
    At least some of the A ranks in 3.x would kick your asses if no one (out of the 20+ during 3.0 days, lately no one can even be bothered to gather for 3.x hunts because they don't give allied seals) can be bothered to silence Mirka
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    At least some of the A ranks in 3.x would kick your asses if no one (out of the 20+ during 3.0 days, lately no one can even be bothered to gather for 3.x hunts because they don't give allied seals) can be bothered to silence Mirka
    Lol, Mirka's one of the ones that you can troll early pullers by just not engaging. xD
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    Cnidaria Vaeriat
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    At least some of the A ranks in 3.x would kick your asses if no one (out of the 20+ during 3.0 days, lately no one can even be bothered to gather for 3.x hunts because they don't give allied seals) can be bothered to silence Mirka
    This might only be server specific problems. On my server, just as many people gather for HW A/S ranks as there are for ARR A/S rank mobs. The only difference being that if 2 A ranks are found at the same time, people prioritize going after ARR A rank before going to HW A rank. Either way, both have large groups of players going after them for tomes/seals.
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnidarian View Post
    This might only be server specific problems. On my server, just as many people gather for HW A/S ranks as there are for ARR A/S rank mobs. The only difference being that if 2 A ranks are found at the same time, people prioritize going after ARR A rank before going to HW A rank. Either way, both have large groups of players going after them for tomes/seals.
    That's largely how it's been on Diabolos as well: there's a priority toward ARR A ranks, but folks are going for both of them when they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    I'd still disagree with the means to do so. Hunts and especially beast tribes do nothing to accomplish "repopulating" the old world, espesically in relation to new players/leafers. Most you'll get is confusion from the sudden spam of "inv pls".
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I sincerely hope that SE doesn't consider hunt zergs "repopulation" of areas. They show up out of thin air, concentrate on one tiny area, and then are gone as quickly as they showed up.
    I love it when very apparent hunt leeches comment on their limited experience with it. What they don't see are the 60s searching for said A ranks or spawning the S ranks that they just conveniently teleport to and spam LFP for.

    So, for what is sometimes more than an hour, you have 60s roaming the zone constantly. What's important is not necessarily that they help the newbies. What's important is the mystique. As a sprout, when you see a geared 60 with cool glamour and a rare mount ride by, it becomes something to aspire towards. When you see a gigantic train of multiple 60s storm a zone, it makes you curious and helps foster interest. It's certainly better than completely dead zones that are left to rot with nothing more than a handful of lowbies.
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    It's certainly better than completely dead zones that are left to rot with nothing more than a handful of lowbies.
    I think this is a large part of the reasoning for the developers too, for what it's worth. If new players come into the game and the leveling zones are always empty, even on populated servers, it can give them the false impression that no one's really playing the game. WoW's had this problem for a long time (I'm not sure if they've done anything to address it in the past couple years or not, though). SE has always generally been a fan of player cooperation, interaction and just..."presence" in such a way that makes the world feel a bit more active.

    Some players obviously don't appreciate that effort, but there are those among us that do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    I love it when very apparent hunt leeches comment on their limited experience with it. What they don't see are the 60s searching for said A ranks or spawning the S ranks that they just conveniently teleport to and spam LFP for.
    Or maybe me and my small FC are the ones spawning said S ranks in the first place. To be quite honest, even with linkshell calls you hardly ever see more than 15 people on my servers gathering for 2.0 hunts, and very much less so now that people have finished their anima. So maybe you should actually understand that again, not all servers have the same circumstances instead of calling people out on being leeches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    WoW's had this problem for a long time (I'm not sure if they've done anything to address it in the past couple years or not, though). SE has always generally been a fan of player cooperation, interaction and just..."presence" in such a way that makes the world feel a bit more active.
    Honestly it doesn't sound like its a huge area of concern when most of the content can be soloed, at least not to the point that they have to encourage players to revisit the old world in such a manner. And even then, WoW doesn't necessarily have this problem with realm phasing even in leveling areas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    Some players obviously don't appreciate that effort, but there are those among us that do.
    Whether or not that it was their intention is unclear, so honestly I can't really appreciate something that isn't even intended. Effort can only go so far especially in the current state of the game.
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