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  1. #2901
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    I was levelling my LNC for cross class skills last night and got Sastasha on roulette. All three party members had the green sprout and the bonus message went off, so I checked their search info - sure enough, all completely new, just the one class to 15 - 18. I felt a bit apprehensive, but tried not to judge too harshly. A lot of newbies can do really well!

    ...but not this group.

    The tank pulls by walking up to the mob and standing there, the healer runs around like a headless chicken using Cures on full HP and the ARC runs up to enemies and shoots them in the face at point blank range. Unsurprisingly I end up taking aggro, but we get through it. Second mob - two aurelias and a bat - somehow the tank wipes, the healer ends up getting aggro by using Medica three times in a row when the tank's already dead and also wipes, so I pop a Second Wind and finish the mob off. Trying to segue into giving some polite advice, I ask the group if they're new. The tank responds by staring at me for three minutes and then uses Return.

    Suspicious, I check the party list. All three of them are German. Ah.

    I left at that point. Hopefully they got a German DPS who explained things to them...
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  2. #2902
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I was levelling my LNC for cross class skills last night and got Sastasha on roulette. All three party members had the green sprout and the bonus message went off, so I checked their search info - sure enough, all completely new, just the one class to 15 - 18. I felt a bit apprehensive, but tried not to judge too harshly. A lot of newbies can do really well!

    ...but not this group.

    The tank pulls by walking up to the mob and standing there, the healer runs around like a headless chicken using Cures on full HP and the ARC runs up to enemies and shoots them in the face at point blank range. Unsurprisingly I end up taking aggro, but we get through it. Second mob - two aurelias and a bat - somehow the tank wipes, the healer ends up getting aggro by using Medica three times in a row when the tank's already dead and also wipes, so I pop a Second Wind and finish the mob off. Trying to segue into giving some polite advice, I ask the group if they're new. The tank responds by staring at me for three minutes and then uses Return.

    Suspicious, I check the party list. All three of them are German. Ah.

    I left at that point. Hopefully they got a German DPS who explained things to them...
    Ah yes that sweet sweet time in any budding conjurors career when they first unlock medica and have it in mind "higher level healing spell = categorically better than lower one" so away they go and medica spam (we have all been there).
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  3. #2903
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    Ah yes that sweet sweet time in any budding conjurors career when they first unlock medica and have it in mind "higher level healing spell = categorically better than lower one" so away they go and medica spam (we have all been there).
    I got the feeling it was the first time they'd actually used it, and their thought process was something along the lines of "!!! LOOK AT THE HEALS! USE MORE!" And then they wiped.

    (And I just noticed you're a fellow Cerberan! I don't often see them here.)
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  4. #2904
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I got the feeling it was the first time they'd actually used it, and their thought process was something along the lines of "!!! LOOK AT THE HEALS! USE MORE!" And then they wiped.
    We have all done it at one point.

    It's easy to get caught up in that blizzard of healing numbers from an AoE heal and lose sight of the bigger picture.

    In this case, it seems like the players were new and panicked. I feel bad for everyone involved because if the three had been grouped with another germanic speaker they could have been talked through the experience and gained a little more knowledge and confidence.
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  5. #2905
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Had an Alexander 1 normal run for my relic materials. Wiped at Oppressor once due to people not weakening both bosses at equal rates. 2nd attempt, no one ripped adds off me and a missile landed, killing me and 2 other DPS. The other healer thought it'd be a good idea to raise the Bard over ME THE HEALER. And the Summoner didn't bother raising me or anyone else for that matter, or didn't have Raise at all. Naturally, Bard dies as soon as he is raised.


    Healer finally decides to revive me and we get a LV3 LB at that moment. I pop it and fully heal and revive everyone, saving the run and getting us the clear. Naturally, I gotten no commendations.
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  6. #2906
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I got the feeling it was the first time they'd actually used it, and their thought process was something along the lines of "!!! LOOK AT THE HEALS! USE MORE!" And then they wiped.

    (And I just noticed you're a fellow Cerberan! I don't often see them here.)
    There are a few of us Cerberans that lurk the forums .

    I think i may have done that with medica back in beta, those were the days .
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  7. #2907
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    Rydia Feymarchian
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    Worst run of Qarn ever. dps kept jumping in ALL aoes. I had slight lag, ok, but... that wasn't a real issue. I ran out of mp at the end of the first boss (all competent players ignore the doom status!) ... The party sprinted forward.
    I dared to ask "MANA!"

    And the black mage is like "well, maybe you should go online and check for mp management tactics.". I guess he expected to find a shy scholar but I kinda replied listing ALL I was doing to save mana and he kind of shut up.

    The rest of the dungeon was okay until the end when the tank went one way and the two dps just decided to do their stuff, ignoring the fact healer and tank were in battle. Things were okay, thought, the tank was competent... until the dps decided to pull other mobs and a flock of condemned ran on us.

    Tried to be polite, told them "please, let the tank choose the pulls" and the rest went... kinda smoothly- the dragoon was just an unpleasant greedy companion.
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  8. #2908
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Sirius HM, a few minutes ago. Everything was good until we reached last boss. Dps would dps blindly, allowing the two kind of bombos to get to the others, giving us multiple stacks of fire vulnerability. 1st wipe, we got 6 stacks. 2nd try, when I saw we were at 5 stacks, on the way to 6 again, I stoneskined everybody. Tank and I survived, but not for long. We respawn, I get kicked.

    I sympathize for the new healer they got (whom we might see reply to this post, harhar)

    Some players don't have a clue.
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    Last edited by cgbspender; 01-06-2016 at 10:29 PM.

  9. #2909
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    Sirius HM, a few minutes ago. Everything was good until we reached last boss. Dps would dps blindly, allowing the two kind of bombos to get to the others, giving us multiple stacks of fire vulnerability. 1st wipe, we got 6 stacks. 2nd try, when I saw we were at 5 stacks, on the way to 6 again, I stoneskined everybody. Tank and I survived, but not for long. We respawn, I get kicked.

    I sympathize for the new healer they got (whom we might see reply to this post, harhar)

    Some players don't have a clue.
    Someday I want to be as cool-headed as you. I'd be raging, cursing and swearing if I was the one kicked in tis case. ARGH
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  10. #2910
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    Miyha Manaya
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    Reposting this from the Duty Finder vent thread, because this probably also counts as a healing horror story. >.>

    Expert roulette. Pharos Sirius (Hard). BLM/NIN/PLD, and I was healing on my AST. The PLD was pretty survivable and the DPS pretty decent, so I was pretty comfortable with throwing up a few HoTs on the tank and helping with the DPS to make the run go faster.

    First boss, since I'm free to DPS, I also, naturally, help the DPS with the adds. What happens? I'm not "helping": I am the ONLY ONE killing the adds. The DPS are just burning down the boss, and the adds are stacking up while I'm trying desperately to kill them, keep the tank alive, and keep myself alive. Near the end of the fight I have FIVE adds on me and if I don't focus-heal myself my HP will drop in a near instant. Luckily, the DPS downed the boss before I could run out of MP, and I didn't get interrupted hardly at all while casting my heals on myself. ._.;

    Second boss, surprise surprise, I'm the only one handling the slimes. To start out it's not a huge issue, but once the boss starts doing his corkscrew thingy and people start getting hit by it, it becomes a bit overwhelming. Becomes even more overwhelming when the NIN, who I told THREE TIMES to kill the slime he had over the vent I was STANDING ON, veeeery slowly kills the slime by the wall NEXT TO (but obviously far enough away to NOT HIT THE VENT) THE DAMN VENT. Of course, that caused even more slimes to spawn. I believe I had like three of them on me at one point.

    So to recap: I had to heal the tank (thank GOD they were survivable so I didn't have to direct heal as much), heal the DPS, kill AND TANK the adds, and cling to dear life myself. And SOMEHOW, I managed to squeeze a few dots and Malefic IIs in on the bosses. Sweet baby Jesus, they were lucky I'm a geared healer. -.- After that second boss I decided to say something, so that hopefully they don't torment any other healers in the future who might be much less geared than I am. WORD FOR WORD, I said: "Just a heads up, the healer shouldn't be the only one killing adds..." Then the BLM, who doesn't DPS for nearly the entire trash pull following my saying that, comes out with this paragraph: "I helped you with the first couple, then you looked like you had it so I decided that more DPS on the boss was better. Quit being an asshole."

    "Quit being an asshole."
    "Quit being an asshole."
    "Quit being an asshole."

    I DIIIIIIIIED. XDDDD First of all, she really didn't help me with the adds: if she did, it wasn't noticeable at all. Not once. I know for a FACT no one killed adds on the first boss, and I was the only one to get the tethers on the second (not to mention the couple times where I had to directly heal the tank and an add was up, no one took it until I stabilized the tank's HP and got it myself). Second of all, all I did was nicely tell the DPS they need to be more on-the-ball with killing adds and not force the healer to perform THREE ROLES AT ONCE, because our jobs are hard enough, and that makes me an asshole... This is a HUGE problem I've run into in this game with giving ANY advice or criticism to help people improve, no matter how nice/sugar-coated it is, so I simply responded with "Lol? Politely asking that you kill adds makes me an asshole? Damn, people in this game need to grow some thicker skin. ._. " She said it sounded like I was "rude" and "condescending" with my saying "just a heads up", and that at 60 and Expert roulette level they would just OBVIOUSLY know that that's what they need to do (SO NOT TRUE btw, any healer or tank would know that pain, QQ). Last thing I said was "Don't worry, you'll know when I'm being rude/condescending/an asshole. <3" And you will, because I can be a royal bitch at times: I'll admit it. >>

    Luckily the DPS did what they should have been doing all along on the last boss, save for the second set of grey bombs and remedy bombs, where the NIN failed to knock back the remedy bomb on the second grey bomb and it exploded. .-. Kinda figured with this group that that might happen on this boss, so I precasted and AoE heal, and we finished the fight without incident.

    But... SERIOUSLY! >< Why do people get so damn offended if you offer advice or ask that someone helps you out a bit and makes your job a little easier? I'm never mean when I do it. ._. If I said something like "For the love of GOD, help me kill adds," or "Do your jobs, you idiots", then yeah, THAT is being rude (unless the former is said after numerous times of trying to nicely get the DPS to do what they're supposed to).
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    Last edited by Miyha; 01-07-2016 at 11:17 AM.

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