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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Double regen certainly has its uses.

    I haven't leveled AST yet, due to having 60 WHM/SCH, so I have got my heals down. I just had the understanding that their shields were not very strong, and that the regen was the way to go. Perhaps this was changed/buffed/nerfed over time and I didn't realize.
    The shields are actually reliably stronger than the SCH's in my experience, that and the Aspected Benefic is instant-cast and far more potent than Diurnal's Aspected Benefic, and generates a shield equal to 130% of healing potency. Reliability vs hoping for a crit chance on your SCH. Though I do agree, double regen usually ends up in a silly amount of overhealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy View Post
    The shields are actually reliably stronger than the SCH's in my experience, that and the Aspected Benefic is instant-cast and far more potent than Diurnal's Aspected Benefic, and generates a shield equal to 130% of healing potency. Reliability vs hoping for a crit chance on your SCH. Though I do agree, double regen usually ends up in a silly amount of overhealing.
    The dumb part is that AST can overwrite Adloquium + Deployment tactics with Aspected Helios, or can overwrite a critted shield with a non-crit shield, effectively cutting it by more than half. I'd just as soon have the AST in Diurnal if they're paired up with my SCH, but it's kinda whatever. If they insist on staying in Nocturnal, I typically just leave them to solo heal because there's no point in wasting mana on shields that will get overwritten when I could use it to DPS instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    The dumb part is that AST can overwrite Adloquium + Deployment tactics with Aspected Helios, or can overwrite a critted shield with a non-crit shield, effectively cutting it by more than half. I'd just as soon have the AST in Diurnal if they're paired up with my SCH.
    I mean, if I'm on AST and I join a party with a SCH I immediately switch to Diurnal. Even if the shield priority was fixed, it makes no sense to have that much shielding going on. But I do agree, the stronger shield should have priority over the weaker one. If a SCH's shield is stronger than the AST's than it should NOT overwrite it, and vise vers, ESPECIALLY if the SCH gets a crit.

    But Noct AST's do have some perks that SCH don't have. I mained SCH for a while so I weighed the pros and cons to both jobs. What I love of about Noct AST is that Aspected Benefic is reliably potent and doesn't require the AST to prey for a crit, in addition to that it's instantaneous. Unlike Adloq which has a cast time. That cast time might not seem like much, but during a raid, those instant casts can be the difference between life and death. Each job has it's own perks though, neither is better than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy View Post
    I mean, if I'm on AST and I join a party with a SCH I immediately switch to Diurnal. Even if the shield priority was fixed, it makes no sense to have that much shielding going on. But I do agree, the stronger shield should have priority over the weaker one. If a SCH's shield is stronger than the AST's than it should NOT overwrite it, and vise vers, ESPECIALLY if the SCH gets a crit.

    But Noct AST's do have some perks that SCH don't have. I mained SCH for a while so I weighed the pros and cons to both jobs. What I love of about Noct AST is that Aspected Benefic is reliably potent and doesn't require the AST to prey for a crit, in addition to that it's instantaneous. Unlike Adloq which has a cast time. That cast time might not seem like much, but during a raid, those instant casts can be the difference between life and death. Each job has it's own perks though, neither is better than the other.
    Yep, I play AST myself though mostly in PvP. Nocturnal Aspected Benefic is truly a troll spell there. xD

    It would be so much better all around if there was priority for shield strength between Galvanize/Nocturnal shield like there is when two SCH's are casting Adloquium so that it doesn't overwrite unless the fresh one is stronger than the one that's already there.

    Quote Originally Posted by m3eansean View Post
    Titan EX requires coordination, memorization of mechanics and albeit, now a joke of a DPS check.
    Not really, you can basically stand in everything aside from things that knock you off the platform if you're unsynced.

    Truly the only endgame is at this point is Thordan EX (this title is waning daily) and savage Alexander.
    You forgot glamour. Glamour is the true endgame.
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