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    Kyah Almasy
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    Honestly, the base concept of this post is kind of a catch-22. Yeah, you can read your skills and such, you really should be familiar with what they do and all but there really is only so much you can learn outside of end-game content about how to play your job. For the most part, specifically in reference to your main complaint here, you're running mainly 4-man content in which case you will never get to experience 2 of the same tank or healer class together in the same content.

    Yes, there's Bismark and Ravana that are 8-mans, and we have Void Ark now, but none of that content is really to the level where it's going to force the kind of 'perfect coordinated play' that is required in the hard end game content. Even Alex NM isn't going to really force you into positions of playing your role to its utmost. I agree, you should have an understanding of how your job works before taking it to that level, but there's no real good way to learn how to play a role in a specific composition for end game.... unless you go and play in that composition in end game.

    Also, since you say that you hate getting 'paired up' with another class means you're doing DF stuff... which, first off, is DF so you shouldn't be surprised that you run into some bad players... but also the real end game content where you reeeaaally need to know your job is only available for pre-made groups at the moment.
    Even if you've never done any content as AST (Which is hard to believe, considering that you to level the job.) simply reading the skills should provide you with sufficient knowledge of the job to play correctly. It tells you the effect cannot be stacked, and even goes as far as to tell the player that Noct shields will not stack with Adloq shields. The rest comes with practice, I agree - but if you don't even know the basics of the skills than therein lies the problem.

    You don't have to have joined a Savage Alex run to learn what is literally spoon fed to us in the description of each skill as it's learned. It's literally right there. While content like Bis, and Ravana, Void Arc are not at the same level as Alex, you can very well wipe a group if a dps check isn't reached, or you're forcing the other healer to spend all their MP picking up your slack, especially in new content.

    I don't mind being paired up with an AST player, and I get paired up with them pretty frequently in Party Finder. Two ASTs can sync with each other pretty well. It's when another AST player has NO idea how the job operates that things become frustrating to deal with, especially when you're losing out on a lot of MP and draws because they have no idea what they're doing. In almost any instance when two AST players find themselves in the same group, they immediately switch to differing sects, even beginners, heck beginners know to switch to Diurnal when they even get partnered up with a SCH. This doesn't require you to have taken on Alex Savage to know, it's honestly the very basic to playing AST.
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    Last edited by KyahAlmasy; 01-05-2016 at 03:48 AM.