The arrogance of some people

[Odett]

@Odett

If I\\'m not playing with my friends, I\\'ll let the DF healer know that it\\'s ok to not heal me unless I\\'m about to die. In all honesty, in a 4 person dungeon, if a tank yells at you for letting them die because your heal was not fast enough and they went from 50% to 0%, they\\'re a horrible tank and are blaming you for their own shortcomings. I\\'m really sorry if you have to deal with crappy tanks like that, but it\\'s not a bad idea to give more tanks a chance too, you know? It\\'s kinda crappy when I play WAR or DRK, constantly use my defensive cooldowns, and I see a cure II after my self-heals, because it\\'s so much wasted potential.

[Iagainsti]

At least concerning Whitemages, Holy drops an aoe stun, so most times a healer can Holy, alt tab their Aero's, then holy again for 9 secs of mitigation. All in all that's way better than the Cure II>Cure you're throwing at me when I grab the pack of mobs. I do agree that you picked a healing role, so stick with it, but the way FFXIV is played, most healers have blantant windows in the majority of content where they can definitely contribute damage. A lot of people come from other MMOs where the role definition is more pronounce, but this isn't one of those games. Healers can do ridiculous damage in this game.

[Judge_Xero]

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Shouldn't be a big deal. After the first couple of pulls the tank should get the idea of what you are up to.

TBH I've only ever had 1 complaint of DPSing while healing, and in reality it was just a group of 3 friends in DF Trolling other players anyways so I don't even know if it counts. But by the number of Commendations and praise I have received for DPSing as a healer, I would say it's more appreciated than not. Even on one run where I almost did let the tank die because I miss clicked Clerics, I apologized to the tank and their replay was "No worries, I'm just glad you know what Clerics is."

Besides, I think it makes you a better healer all around when you at least make an effort, or make mistakes by trying to go above and beyond. It gives you a better understanding of mitigation and gauging HP levels.

[Seryl199]

I've experienced some healers where the HP for the tank gets closer to 20 percent and playing as a dps one is lucky when you can actually catch a heal from some of them. That type of healer just doesn't quite get their role is healing first and dps'ing second.

Healers don't just roll tanks down a hill and see where they end up at the bottom. If they want to play with a narrow margin, they're weighing up all their tools constantly, judging the flow of damage in respect to their HoT's, responding to mitigation from the tank. If the tank dies to miscalculation, then yeah, the healer is bad. They have room to improve, now that they've toed the line and crossed it, but a botched job is still a wipe that could have been avoided.

A tank dipping to 2-3k HP where the tank is mindful of HP and actively mitigating alongside a healer who is on top of CD's and abilities with no deaths shows good awareness and synergy from the party as a whole, where the tank and healer give back and forth, and DPS are able to kill trash before the tank and healer's resources run out. Is every group capable of this? Certainly not, and while it shouldn't be considered normal play, neither should it be dismissed as poor play, since the players are at least playing decently to avoid deaths and perform efficiently, even if they do take a few risks that you don't agree with.

[Terribad]

Dear Diary,

Someone that I've never met before, doesn't help pay my bills, or help me in any way was mean to me today in a video game. I know I will never see this person again and that this person is completely irrelevant and I could just ignore it and go on about my day. But, then I'd actually be a non cry baby, mature, person and tumblr just won't allow that.


Signed,
Sensitive Gamer.

[AlphaSonic]

I've experienced some healers where the HP for the tank gets closer to 20 percent and playing as a dps one is lucky when you can actually catch a heal from some of them. That type of healer just doesn't quite get their role is healing first and dps'ing second.

Sorry for being a healer that uses my CDs and knows when it is a good idea letting drop the tank to 20% so I can dish more DPS because I know I can recover that.

Now I will cry in a corner thinking why I was given emergency cooldowns and DPS abilities while you spam mindlessly cure I/II.

[LaylaTsarra]

Sorry for being a healer that uses my CDs and knows when it is a good idea letting drop the tank to 20% so I can dish more DPS because I know I can recover that.

Now I will cry in a corner thinking why I was given emergency cooldowns and DPS abilities while you spam mindlessly cure I/II.

Here you go, have at it.

[Atoli]

In DF though, people dont know you, letting a tank dropping below 50% WITHOUT knowing that person or having already run with that person, is taking the risk to see him die in no time just because you THOUGHT he was capable of holding his own. In DF I prefer by far not allowing him to fall below 70% then taking the risk to see him die because of me overestimating his capacities and being kicked for not Healing right.

I always let DF tanks drop to around 20% if they aren't as sturdy as wet paper. If I play with friends, I can let them drop to 200 HP and less and get away with it. So 20% already IS my safety margin^^
It's all about reading the flow of battle and reaction speed. It has very little to do with trusting the tank to hold his own and a lot more with "Can I get out of CS in time and heal him up enough before the GCD is over and the monsters hit him again?".
Tank Skills factor in a little bit, but I'd be crazy if I relied on a random person to use the skill or ability I want him to use right then. So my calculations are usually not factoring in ANY help from the tank himself, which means a good tank will probably end up at 30% instead of 20 because he was using cooldowns, but in general I rely on myself to keep him alive and that's it.

I had a tank once who tried to forbid me from letting him drop below full HP, telling me that a good healer always keeps the tank topped off.
I didn't even argue, people like that are not worth my time. One of the rare occasions I actually abandoned duty pretty much right at the start
I never let people die in a df run (unless the whole party messes up mechanics and we die because it's impossible to outheal it), so I'm doing my job as a healer. I'm also contributing way more than I have to by maximizing dps as well.
It is NOT my job to help the fragile soul of a tank who is afraid to drop below 99% HP.

[KaitlanKela]

Please someone stop me if I'm doing it wrong, but I as a tank I try not to worry about the healer's job. Mine is hard enough! Am I a bad? I am new. >.<

I glance at my health on occasion and if it's in the last third or so I pop a cooldown. No reason to demand the healer git gud if I can contribute in some way myself and see if it makes a difference.

Even as a new tank, I fail to see how the healer's performance should affect mine. Unless, of course, I'm dead. If that happens it was probably my fault anyway.

[Andrea]

Here you go, have at it.

Amazing attitude you have there.