Thank you for giving us long FATE wait times again.

[SirSaber]

1.)Its been addressed already and they're working on it

2.) You don't have to do the FATE-related quests. You can even abandon them without losing your daily allowance.

3.) There are so many avenues to get anima items that you don't even have to touch beast tribe quests at all.

So why have you been waiting for one FATE for 6 days?

1 : It's has not been addressed since I still get long cooldown FATE daily quests

2: No I don't have to do them, but then as I wrote on my 1st post I mainly do these because they're fast and it's a bonus.

3: Again I do these as a bonus, it helps and we should not have to wait this long for a "daily" quest.

[Raist]

The problem is that you are waiting on them.

Your fate will never spawn while all the slots are filled with other FATES waiting for their 15 minute timers to expire. That is how the system was revamped a while back. Learn how it works and you can speed up the rotation, reducing the time it takes to get to your FATE.

Basically, you can sort of "prod" the system into spawning the FATE you need.

Check the map. Find the FATES close to the level of the one you need. Go finish one of them. There will be a cool-down until the next one in that level group spawns. Go back to your spot and clear some of the local mobs to register activity in that area, then wait to see if the next FATE is the one you need. If not, go take out another in the set. Rinse/repeat.

I spawned the ones I needed quite quickly this way the last few weeks for both my relics--did the same thing when I made the originals over a year ago. Have even triggered some of the more rare ones for people like the Enmity of my Enemy chain in the shroud and Diamond in the Rough in Thanalan.

Try it... you might be surprised. At the very least, it should keep you from falling asleep.

[Eidolon]

The problem is that you are waiting on them.
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Try it... you might be surprised. At the very least, it should keep you from falling asleep.

The real issue is:

waiting on them is the safest bet. Appearantly, there was someone waiting on this SAME FATE in thanalan. Me, in my infinite wisdom (Read: Silly misclicks) had my tab set to my RP tab, whcih only shows: Tells, Say, Emotes, and FC chat. It's a pretty nice chat log when I'm RP'ing, but not when I'm out in the wild.


Some guy was appearantly running around doing the FATE's in the area. Looking at the log, it looked like he had been at it for about 10-20+ minutes, trying to help the fate spawn earlier.

And of course, as soon as the fate spawns, you know how us DPS are. "DPS DPS DPS" and jump on it, mrudered it in less than 30 seconds.

Full credit was nice, but that guy got screwed by me. And there are plenty of people who will do it maliciously, with full intent of "My time is more precious than your time."

The FATE system is bad. The QUESTS attatched to FATE's are even worst.

Your idea is good in theory, if you were the only one there. But the simple fact of the matter is, leaving the fate leaves it open to being cleared out before you can get there. Especially with the numbers it can reach during more active times.

[MistyMew]

The problem is that you are waiting on them.

Your fate will never spawn while all the slots are filled with other FATES waiting for their 15 minute timers to expire........

Try it... you might be surprised. At the very least, it should keep you from falling asleep.

I have cleared many many fates in the past trying to get certain ones to pop, countless.... it simply doesn't work most times.

It does not.

And sadly you cant leave the wanted fate area if even 1 other person is there waiting for it. I think a large portion of my server would be good and hold a fate if asked or if you let them know you are closing others to pop the needed one, but all it takes is 1 other (and there is always one lol) to not give a crap and its closed longggg before you reach the area again.

We do have to sit and wait then, there's no other choice, completing other FATES is not even close to reliable, and sadly cant count on others to do the right thing either.

Boost the timers or remove them from the possible list of quests.

There are indeed other avenues to attain the relic items, I mix it up and do a bit of them all .

That in itself does NOT invalidate that this particular way is silly and needs adjusting. (not by the time 99% of ppl are finished either.....but now)

[Raist]

The real issue is:

waiting on them is the safest bet. Appearantly, there was someone waiting on this SAME FATE in thanalan. Me, in my infinite wisdom (Read: Silly misclicks) had my tab set to my RP tab, whcih only shows: Tells, Say, Emotes, and FC chat. It's a pretty nice chat log when I'm RP'ing, but not when I'm out in the wild.


Some guy was appearantly running around doing the FATE's in the area. Looking at the log, it looked like he had been at it for about 10-20+ minutes, trying to help the fate spawn earlier.

And of course, as soon as the fate spawns, you know how us DPS are. "DPS DPS DPS" and jump on it, mrudered it in less than 30 seconds.

Full credit was nice, but that guy got screwed by me. And there are plenty of people who will do it maliciously, with full intent of "My time is more precious than your time."

The FATE system is bad. The QUESTS attatched to FATE's are even worst.

Your idea is good in theory, if you were the only one there. But the simple fact of the matter is, leaving the fate leaves it open to being cleared out before you can get there. Especially with the numbers it can reach during more active times.

I have cleared many many fates in the past trying to get certain ones to pop, countless.... it simply doesn't work most times.

It does not.

And sadly you cant leave the wanted fate area if even 1 other person is there waiting for it. I think a large portion of my server would be good and hold a fate if asked or if you let them know you are closing others to pop the needed one, but all it takes is 1 other (and there is always one lol) to not give a crap and its closed longggg before you reach the area again.

We do have to sit and wait then, there's no other choice, completing other FATES is not even close to reliable, and sadly cant count on others to do the right thing either.

Boost the timers or remove them from the possible list of quests.

There are indeed other avenues to attain the relic items, I mix it up and do a bit of them all .

That in itself does NOT invalidate that this particular way is silly and needs adjusting. (not by the time 99% of ppl are finished either.....but now)

Guess you didn't read my method very well. They were doing it wrong...or at least not optimally if they wanted a FATE a long ways away. There is a delay between when the slot opens (when a FATE in the group is cleared) and the next one in the rotation clears. Plenty of time to run back to the other FATE's spawn area. And yes... it is a long delay. I could clear Diamond Jaw or Zombies and run all the way back to White Spark or Flame before the FATE's pop. Could clear the general in the NW corner of the sylph territory and make it back to Dawn before she popped....consistently.

Just running around clearing them willy-nilly is going to be an issue. You need to focus your efforts in the proper area, taking a systematic approach.

[Eidolon]

Just running around clearing them willy-nilly is going to be an issue. You need to focus your efforts in the proper area, taking a systematic approach.

sadly your 'method' is a load of hot air and coincidence.

There's nothing that garuntees kiling things in the area will make it pop.

While clearing FATE's will create room for more FATE's to pop, it's very likely that when you run off to a nearby FATE that another one might despawn and leaving you with nothing.

To say the least, both of our points are still valid, as is yours - but the big theme to take away is that "STaying near the FATE is the safest bet due to bad design."

[Raist]

Well... all I can say is one method is leaving a player waiting "6 days", while another may only take 20-30 minutes. May take longer to work through the rotation....but certainly not sitting on their duff for 6 days.

In my experience it has been around the 30 minute mark in most cases. Back before the last tweaking they did it could take a few hours to get something like Taste of Fear or Daxio to spawn....but since they bound it more aggressively to activity in the zone it has been considerably easier to advance FATE spawns.

And it isn't "hot air and coincidence". SE tweaked it like a year or so ago so that increased activity in a zone increased spawn rates. It's a fact that the system is designed to respond this way.

It's all in being aware of the system and the state of the zone, and working it to your advantage.

[Stormrider]

They said it will be adjusted, what more do you want o_o
You are completely right, and the dev team is aware of this issue, no need to be all salty.

So curious? They were well aware of this before 3.0? Yes! They wanted to prod players back into this content? Yes! They could have easily just made vanu equal to doing all the old ones and not prodded people back into that content. They have been sitting on the quest chain since close to 3.0? Yes!

How does this get a pass in your books? Because they said the know and it might be fixed in 3 months? I stockpiled all those fate quest items. How long should I have to sit on them? On a side note I think its crazy to really fate rng for anything. But calling out someone who calls out a seriously ignored flaw seems just wrong to me.

[Whiteroom]

What part of Anima do you have to do thes fates for? I finished one already and can't remember doing any required fates.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

What part of Anima do you have to do thes fates for? I finished one already and can't remember doing any required fates.

I think they mean the FATEs required for some beastmen daily quests since beast tribes also offer the 4 materials needed to get 20 of each, but you need to finish quests to get the tokens.