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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    Just like two same parsers with the exact same settings will parse different numbers. What else ?
    Having used ACT extensively with my static groups in the past, I'm skeptical of that actually happening to a degree that it invalidates the general value of the information and would need to see it demonstrated. Any variations should generally be small enough (often the result of DoT simulation variations, which I mentioned in my post, or other things, like ping or when the parser registers an individual user as in combat and thus starts recording, and so on) to still provide for a reliable benchmark.

    Not that I take parser results as gospel--they have a lot of idiosyncrasies that anyone using them as a tool to gauge performance should keep in mind. But they're also the only tool we currently have to really gauge performance for individual DPS. Luckily, that's going to be changing soon, with the addition of the Training Hall (or whatever it's named).
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    Last edited by Alahra; 01-04-2016 at 12:10 AM.
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    Moonleg Starborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    Just started playing the game? Just unsubscribe immediately
    That will be next.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Steam-newbies

    Seems your horror scenario is not likely to be next on that list.
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  3. #323
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    Justin Tymes
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    I can understand when you arent at level 60 and you're still learning mechanics, but its kinda confusing when I'm in Cleric Stance as an SCH and there are 2 SMNs in the party, and I only see 2 different Arcanist DOTs on the boss or only my own ShadowFlare up.
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  4. #324
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    I can understand when you arent at level 60 and you're still learning mechanics, but its kinda confusing when I'm in Cleric Stance as an SCH and there are 2 SMNs in the party, and I only see 2 different Arcanist DOTs on the boss or only my own ShadowFlare up.
    If I was the tank in that scenario I'd be wondering why the boss isn't covered in DoTs and dieing from Plauge with that set up.
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  5. #325
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    i'm just watching him not even cast huton at *all* and when he did do it,
    Am I the only one who found this part so contracting to stop reading?
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  6. #326
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    The DoT ticks in particular for ACT are simulated
    This is technically correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    the program makes some assumptions about which ticks crit
    This is incontestably correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    and how much they hit for in general, based on what buffs are up at the time of application
    This is completely false. ACT does not estimate DoT damage any longer since average DoT damage is sent from the server to the client (it is in fact not parsing the battle log, it uses your PC network traffic) and so damage per tick is no longer ball park estimated. Damage itself of course is random, but the server already calculates the average ahead of time, so the final value over the duration is correct. Adjustments due to spell speed, raging strikes, etc. are already calculated by the server and sent to the client so it is no longer necessary to do estimation. Critical hits however are (obviously) random and we don't know the true rates that we are criting in general so we can't really do much there. It will be interesting when we can do validation against the game's parser in the training hall. Although I don't know why people don't do validation right now against the game's parser in PvP...
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  7. #327
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    Am I the only one who found this part so contracting to stop reading?
    I wrote this when I was mad. I ment when he did do it cause we told him to cast it, he wouldnt even armor crush to keep it up.
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  8. #328
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    Am I the only one who found this part so contracting to stop reading?
    contradicting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    I'm a Thunder Mage. Ain't nobody telling me what to do.
    I am an Arcane Mage - I just use Manawall and Manipulate myself back and forth between allies.
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  9. #329
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    This is completely false. ACT does not estimate DoT damage any longer since average DoT damage is sent from the server to the client (it is in fact not parsing the battle log, it uses your PC network traffic) and so damage per tick is no longer ball park estimated.
    That's good to know. I knew they made some changes to the way it worked toward the end of ARR, but didn't know they had managed to make the DoT readings more accurate.
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    Erin Grey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I am an Arcane Mage - I just use Manawall and Manipulate myself back and forth between allies.
    I'm an unaspected mage, Scathe all day. L2p n00bz.
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