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    As someone with a GTX 970, yes, get a GTX 970.
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    Depending on budget and whether or not your PSU can handle it, a GTX970 is indeed a good card for this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    A 660 ti is more than capable to play max settings at 1080p Resolution.

    Which 6 Core AMD processor are you using?
    Definitely not with shadows and ambient occlusion turned up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Really ...

    While I'll freely admit that I don't know everything about every component made by every manufacturer, I have been building my own comps for over a decade all from scratch and often modded.

    So I'm curious, what is it that people are saying that shows that they have no clue what they are talking about and what knowledge and input do you have that shows that you do?
    You suggested SLI with the gtx 970.

    A Card with 3,5 gb vram and you seriously suggested SLI. WTF
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    Furthermore you cant just recommend a video card without knowing the whole system specs. Probably the TE has an old power supply which cant handle the gtx 970 proberly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnieD View Post
    You suggested SLI with the gtx 970.

    A Card with 3,5 gb vram and you seriously suggested SLI. WTF
    And just what is inherently wrong with two 970's in SLI?

    I run two OC'ed 970's in SLI.
    Why? Because I play more games than just this one that are more demanding and I like to max out settings with a stable 60+ fps. It was also a better performance to cost ratio to go with two 970's in SLI for the level of performance I wanted for all the different things I do with my comp.

    Also, I never suggested to go SLI.
    I did mention it as a consideration when looking at cards and their cost, performance and longevity. In fact, I only brought it into the conversation in the context of IF you are going to do SLI it may be better to go with 970's over 980's since it is way more affordable and the cost difference between the cards adds up when you are getting two.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonnieD View Post
    Furthermore you cant just recommend a video card without knowing the whole system specs. Probably the TE has an old power supply which cant handle the gtx 970 proberly.
    This part I will partially agree with since there are gaps in the information given to us on what they have such as their psu.
    However 970's really aren't that big of power hogs, approx. 150 watts from all the documentation I've seen, so unless they have a very underpowered psu, like a 300 watt or less, they will most likely be able to use a 970 fine. Besides, if their psu is that weak they should probably upgrade at this point and good psu's arent really expensive.

    But yes more info to work with is better and it has been asked for in this thread, but until that is provided we can only make the best guesstimations we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    And just what is inherently wrong with two 970's in SLI?

    I run two OC'ed 970's in SLI.
    Why? Because I play more games than just this one that are more demanding and I like to max out settings with a stable 60+ fps. It was also a better performance to cost ratio to go with two 970's in SLI for the level of performance I wanted for all the different things I do with my comp.

    Also, I never suggested to go SLI.
    I did mention it as a consideration when looking at cards and their cost, performance and longevity. In fact, I only brought it into the conversation in the context of IF you are going to do SLI it may be better to go with 970's over 980's since it is way more affordable and the cost difference between the cards adds up when you are getting two.
    A SLI with two gtx 970 ist some of the worst things you can do because of the 3,5 gb vram.Thats way to less memory for so much power. If you dont have any problems yet, you will get them in the future if you dont plan to replace them anytime soon

    And also theres another manufacturer of video card called AMD. The r 390 ist as fast as the gtx 970, has 8 gb vram and costs the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    This part I will partially agree with since there are gaps in the information given to us on what they have such as their psu.
    However 970's really aren't that big of power hogs, unlike the 980's, so unless they have a very underpowered psu they will most likely be able to use a 970 fine.

    But yes more info to work with is better and it has been asked for in this thread, but until that is provided we can only make the best guesstimations we can.
    Its not only the power. Older power supplies just cant handle new graphics cards proberly, even if they have >500 W. They can cause problems and if your are unlucky they can damage your system.
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    GTX980's have 4gb of vram, that's .05gb difference per card and only 1gb difference for SLI. That's approximately a 14% difference in the amount of vram between the two.
    This is minimized even more by the fact that 970's are technically a 3.5 + 0.5 vram setup, so also 4.0gb, its just that 0.5gb of that is separate and slower vram, which was a "problem" before (for those that thought it was a contiguous 4gb setup) but has been mitigated somewhat by Nvidia changing up and refining how the 970 allocate the different sections of memory, with the slower 0.5gb being used for firmware storage and the like, which on the 980's still takes up part of the 4gb on that card.

    Lastly, the performance of cards, particularly if they are different architecture and from different manufacturers, can't be solely judged on some numbers thrown out.
    Let's look at the 8gb thing. Yes, that number is greater but how well is it utilized by the architecture? A card can look better on paper, but its real world performance may not match up.
    The 8gb is theoretically better for higher resolutions like 4k, but you may not see any real performance increase at 1080p.
    Also, you then have to factor in that Nvidia has partnered with many developers to have them utilize and optimize for their technology, so in games like Witcher 3 you may get better performance from a Nvidia card that has lower specs compared to an AMD card.
    Also, the gtx970's are more power efficient and use less power.

    So which of the cards are better?
    Really it depends on the situation and they are fairly comparable. I personally like the 970's more because more of the games I play have been optimized for nvidia tech.

    As for old psu's being problematic yes that is a problem but one that extends beyond what graphics card they have or should get. If a psu is that old, it should get replaced regardless.
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    Oh boy, the memory in SLI doesnt add up. You have 3,5 Gb of vram available with your SLI Setup...
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    Last edited by DonnieD; 12-31-2015 at 10:32 AM.

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    I will agree with everybody who suggests the 970. I just recently got one, and I love it. I should note, though, that upgrading your GPU on this game doesn't do nearly as much for your frame rate as upgrading your CPU does (assuming your gpu isn't extremely outdated. I went from an AMD 7950 to a 970 and did not go up in frame rate at all, even though the 970 is a much superior card and makes the game look a LOT better. When i upgraded my processor from a 2nd gen i5, i went from 30-50 fps to 90-120). I use a 4770k processor and a gigabyte brand 970 GTX. I do not ever overclock anything that I buy, the attached picture shows the stock performance of this combination. I play at 1080p, and I always have a ton of stuff going in the background.



    I opened the map to show you that I'm getting over 90 frames in the busiest part of Idyllshire. The 970 is more than enough for this game, and always will be. I wouldn't waste extra money on a 980ti or anything else unless you're an enthusiast with a lot of money to spend for only slight to moderate performance increases.

    Edit to note: This is prime time, when i took this screenshot. I usually push over 100 frames in idyllshire at night time when there aren't a million people loitering around. I'm on one of the most populated servers of the game, as well.
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