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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    or you can do the correct thing and report the plot seller for rmt they get banned and you get house without funding rmt win win.
    Do you even know what RMT is? It is the act of buying(or selling) Gil/goods for REAL MONEY, get it, RMT stands for Real Money Trade(or Transaction) Earning enough gil legally in game to buy a house doesn't mean someone used RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    Do you even know what RMT is? It is the act of buying(or selling) Gil/goods for REAL MONEY, get it, RMT stands for Real Money Trade(or Transaction) Earning enough gil legally in game to buy a house doesn't mean someone used RMT.
    well the people who buy many houses on an account then make PF's to sell on plots that were just bought sounds like sellers so my statement RMT still stands. Fact remains people that even pay someone to relinquish their plot and then pay for the plot are kind of silly when you can report the fact their trying to sell a house for more than what they bought it for let alone making the person pay twice.

    Violates TOS and people that buy several houses just to sell for more than the house even cost them are no better than the RMT so deserve the same treatment a ban. Cause lets face it where not looking at sometimes buying a thing on the market board that is say 100k less than what it usually sells for when houses seem to sell for millions more than they cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    well the people who buy many houses on an account then make PF's to sell on plots that were just bought sounds like sellers so my statement RMT still stands. Fact remains people that even pay someone to relinquish their plot and then pay for the plot are kind of silly when you can report the fact their trying to sell a house for more than what they bought it for let alone making the person pay twice.

    Violates TOS and people that buy several houses just to sell for more than the house even cost them are no better than the RMT so deserve the same treatment a ban. Cause lets face it where not looking at sometimes buying a thing on the market board that is say 100k less than what it usually sells for when houses seem to sell for millions more than they cost.
    It's wrong because you think it's wrong, seems reasonable. I'd like to see the specific passage in the Terms of Agreement that supports your statment.
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    Player Ilitsa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    well the people who buy many houses on an account then make PF's to sell on plots that were just bought sounds like sellers so my statement RMT still stands. Fact remains people that even pay someone to relinquish their plot and then pay for the plot are kind of silly when you can report the fact their trying to sell a house for more than what they bought it for let alone making the person pay twice.

    Violates TOS and people that buy several houses just to sell for more than the house even cost them are no better than the RMT so deserve the same treatment a ban. Cause lets face it where not looking at sometimes buying a thing on the market board that is say 100k less than what it usually sells for when houses seem to sell for millions more than they cost.
    Just like run selling violates ToS right? Or selling the Platinum bonding bands? Selling a house aftermarket is a violation if you're receiving REAL MONEY for said service. Just because someone bought several houses does not prove RMT, so no, your statement holds no ground. People over charge for stuff all the time. It's called Supply and demand. it's a VERY basic economic principal, and guess what? FFXIV features a free market.
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    What we really need is the UA updated with its own section that explicitly says that the buying and resale of estates to other players is a prohibited action. It would take all of 5 minutes to do and a few more minute to issue an update notice on the lodestone. Using 3.2 of the UA as the section that is being violated is not enough. It is too broad of a section to begin with as almost any action which I don't like is disrupting my experience in some way. But I'd find it absurd to report people for those things because life is too short to care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    well the people who buy many houses on an account then make PF's to sell on plots that were just bought sounds like sellers so my statement RMT still stands.
    It still doesn't stand. The R means Real or real world currency, not in-game gil. It would be more appropriate to call them FMT (Fake Money Traders). But someone obtaining things to sell at a higher price is not against the rules when it comes to in-game items (eg, I can go out and harvest items that an NPC sells for 10g and put them on the market for 10k - it's almost the same thing).
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