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  1. #11
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applesnap View Post
    It cost you five million gil for that plot and you're asking for 55m more? That's what I would call a profit, and a greedy one. What if the people whose houses you want to buy don't want to sell it to you? Why should they? You always have a choice, so please don't use that excuse as an escape clause for your actions.

    The underlying message here: Please do not buy housing plots unless you intend to occupy them. Everyone is stressed enough as is without all of this buying to inflate profit through PF.
    Supply < Demand isn't greed. All the relic crafting mats being sold for far more than it cost to make (millions) isn't greed, it's poor design. Blame SE for the poor system sure, because with how it is, you are well within your right to, but don't blame players who see an opportunity, calling them greedy. It's not greed, these houses are valuable, they are worth money, people will buy them. Yes, thats a bad system, but that's not the fault of the budding moneymaker.

    Also, the house is worth 60mil if someone is willing to pay 60mil, which in the current housing market is very likely, welcome to economy folks.

    TLDR: Blame square, nobody else
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 12-26-2015 at 09:08 PM.

  2. #12
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    Blitzace's Avatar
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    Blitz Ace
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    Odin
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    honestly, i agree with you Apple, a full 100%

    And it just shows how poisonous some people in this "community" are.
    We all know how little housing area we have VS the demand, Some houses get opened up, What do people do? Buy em to then sell em for profit.
    And like apple said, You can coat it with a nice story full with rainbows & unicorns, end of the day you did this for profits, Simple as it is.
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  3. #13
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    Caeldan Caldoren
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    Buying something for 5 mil and trying to get 12 times that from someone else isnt economy, its being a dirty used car salesman.

    They are not using the economy, they are exploiting the economy. Nothing else you can say to refute that.
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  4. #14
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    Blitz Ace
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    Odin
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    the people defending this, are probably the ones that are doing so.

    How low are you when you damn well know that people have been looking for houses for months, and then exploit that? Thats just sad.
    i've could've done the same if i wanted, but honestly.. i'm not gonna rip people off like that, Yes a few months back i sold my small house due to the fact i wanted to upgrade to a large.

    I'm totally fine with people who sell their houses who no longer uses them or want to upgrade to a bigger estate, How ever if you buy them purely to make a profit out of them. That is just a scumbag move right there.
    And how are you gonna compare this to relic? Are you mad? Did you get a few taps on the back of your head? Relic items will never have the issue of not having the supply, tons of people can make them for such a cheap price.

    Unlike housing that is in a very high demand and people just abuse it. Cause you damn well know that buying something for 5M then resell it for 50+ is just .... sigh
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  5. #15
    Player Vaeria's Avatar
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    Devil Panzerfaust
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrahn View Post
    Yeah, it's sad really. I see some people asking for 100m to reliquish their freshly bought -small- Lavender plot.
    Not gonna lie...this kinda made my day eheh. Lav beds plot 49 ward 8 subdivision..and I wouldn't sell my house for a night with Minfilia and Lion at the same time. Maybe Tataru..what..whaa? Kidding kidding. But seriously...

    Applesnap and Madjames both raise valid points. But you have to remember 1 thing first and formost: HOUSES ARE 'LUXURY' ITEMS. They are in NO way needed to advance the game. Granted, having your cozy personal spot is a hellava lot nicer than laying in your fc bed hearing Stormshadownix and Bubblebum Kittah makin the walls rumble in the next room, but its just not a key item to advance any story plot.

    Lambdafish makes the greatest points though...supply and demand. Its like being expected to sell a Porshe for 10k just because everyone on the block wants one. Thats unrealistic. Yes, SE shouldve come up with a better way to sell houses but thats just how it is with current demand. Would I have paid 100 mil for a small Lav plot? If I wanted the house badly enough...yes. (Anyone remember the item- Kraken Club?) Just saying...til SE fizes it so that everyone who wants one has a genuine shot at a house, this is the realistic situation to be delt with. (and hell..I don't even garden/craft with mine >_>
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    Last edited by Vaeria; 12-27-2015 at 06:12 AM.

  6. #16
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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Some players on moogle are asking 250m. They should be ashamed. But I'm sure they arent. You've got to have no ethics at all to do that in the first place.
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  7. #17
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    I'll have to agree here, I see a lot of selfish people. What is the point of having 999,999,999 gil in this game? Further more what is the point of owning half a ward even though you know housing is limited and people want to move in? Sorry but Gordon Gekko isn't a role model.
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  8. #18
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    Rasha'zi Molkoh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Supply < Demand isn't greed. All the relic crafting mats being sold for far more than it cost to make (millions) isn't greed, it's poor design. Blame SE for the poor system sure, because with how it is, you are well within your right to, but don't blame players who see an opportunity, calling them greedy. It's not greed, these houses are valuable, they are worth money, people will buy them. Yes, thats a bad system, but that's not the fault of the budding moneymaker.

    Also, the house is worth 60mil if someone is willing to pay 60mil, which in the current housing market is very likely, welcome to economy folks.

    TLDR: Blame square, nobody else
    I can blame SE for the housing bug that prevents plots from unlocking. This guy is just talking about pure greed...

    Lol.. karma is a mofo tho.. just look at what happened to that pharmaceutical CEO.. who jacked up the price on those HIV treatment pills.. he's bout to serve some time.. and why? Oh he was a greedy fuq who was just another one of the pyramid scheme con-men..
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    Houses got available, What happened? (...)
    People bought houses to sell em on partyfinder.
    Some people may really be so bad to buy and sell the house at once. But not everybody, who is now selling, is one these guys. Look at me and my husband for example. We already had a small house for some months, i am the ownder atm. Yesterday we had luck and were able to buy a middle house, my husband is the owner now. Bud we dont want to block 2 houses, because we know how many player and FCs are still searching for a house, so we will sell our small house and live in the middle one together. When I gonna open a thread in the party finder now, it will look like i was a grabber, making my money at the cost of others ^^
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexbezhul View Post
    Some people may really be so bad to buy and sell the house at once. But not everybody, who is now selling, is one these guys. Look at me and my husband for example. We already had a small house for some months, i am the ownder atm. Yesterday we had luck and were able to buy a middle house, my husband is the owner now. Bud we dont want to block 2 houses, because we know how many player and FCs are still searching for a house, so we will sell our small house. When I gonna open a thread in the party finder now, it will look like i was a grabber, making my money at the cost of others ^^
    If the plot and house are actually decorated you'd be less likely to be labeled as a hoarder I'd think.
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