With all this housing drama going on...

[Dyvid]

This is just a general statement. It's likely all we'll get and its been presented to me already. What I want to make sure is they don't half-ace it. We can say "Oh they won't" but SE has definitely botched stuff like this in the past. This statement doesn't preclude the need to voice our opinions. It's also why I am not raving right now.

You said you want a road map on housing and that is what they gave you. 3.3 they are adding more wards and further down the pipeline they are adding wards in ishgard and apartment buildings. If you are looking for specific time and dates I think you'll be left waiting because devs want to box themselves in by deadlines. That is how you get half-arsed system.

[Sterne]

You said you want a road map on housing and that is what they gave you. 3.3 they are adding more wards and further down the pipeline they are adding wards in ishgard and apartment buildings. If you are looking for specific time and dates I think you'll be left waiting because devs want to box themselves in by deadlines. That is how you get half-arsed system.

More to the point: How many more wards? Are we getting two? That would be half-aced to say the least (to coin melchar's phrase). They gave us these vague ideals and ideas months ago, and look where Phase 1 got us. Nowhere.

We don't want a failed Phase 2, and then a botched Phase 3 as well.

We are here to let them know that what they did (reclamation), coupled with what they did around it (free login campaign, Christmas morning deadline) was a terrible failure on their part to really solve the problem they're hoping to fix.

I get what you're saying, but what we're saying is that we need to be heard:
"Please do it better. Please do it sooner. And please do it with heart for everyone"

[Melchar]

Sterne gets it Dyvid. I'm not as vapid as my portrait might indicate. I want to communicate with the dev team. Whether I get what I want doesn't really matter. In the end, an effective solution is the top priority. No more of these lukewarm disappointments.

[Dyvid]

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Expecting instant result and quick solution to complex problems only leads to more problems. Reclamation isn't some one day fix, it's an on going system of removal and repurchase. From now on houses that have been abandon will be returned to the system for resell. You might find a house today, tomorrow, next week, or the week after. The free log on was in bad taste on housing side but it was also the market gimmick everyone uses to get player to start playing again, you know this. Do you honestly think the devs said "How can we upset the player? I know, we have reclamation service coming, lets do a free log on campaign just to spite them." They want housing to work as much as you but don't want to break the game in the process. You think people are mad about housing, imagine the fire storm that would happen if SE gave houses to everyone but broke the DF server as a side effect. Don't forget it happened in 2.1.

Instead of venting pure frustration what about some possible solution? You said ""Please do it better. Please do it sooner. And please do it with heart for everyone"" so I count with how?

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

They should have left the houses for FC only, that way only people that can get rank 6 FC can get houses and ppl can't pluck them all up for to resell or w/e. Then people could have had their own rooms with flowerpots. The way it is right now just isn't working and isn't fair to people wanting to start new FCs.

[Sterne]

Instead of venting pure frustration what about some possible solution? You said ""Please do it better. Please do it sooner. And please do it with heart for everyone"" so I count with how?

You're mistaking a cry for action and attention from the devs to our woes as venting pure frustration.

That aside, I wish I could come up with the perfect solution myself. I, however, do not have years of experience in the gaming industry to back me. All I have are cursory understandings of how the system works. I cannot speak for their budget, or where the money they've earned from 'the game that saved Square Enix' went. I cannot say whether or not this money has been misappropriated and gone to other things rather than the QoL fixes we need and want.

What you're asking for from me, and from all of us, is moot. If we were developers surely we would apply for a job at Square Enix and fix it ourselves from the inside.

The bottom line is that my monthly subscription pays their salary, and at the very least we all deserve to be heard and acknowledged.

Phase 1 was poorly implemented. Period.

We don't want the same for Phase 2 and 3 in the coming months (to a year).

[Catwho]

they're also doing a "mansion" system which will be able to house 512 players each.

"Mansion" just means apartments in Japan. Threw me for a loop the first time I went there and a friend who lives in Kyoto called his apartment that.

[Mendalas]

They should have left the houses for FC only, that way only people that can get rank 6 FC can get houses and ppl can't pluck them all up for to resell or w/e. Then people could have had their own rooms with flowerpots. The way it is right now just isn't working and isn't fair to people wanting to start new FCs.

Pretty much this. This was not thought through at all and I feel like they just did this because the first idea for personal housing fell through or something

[Ayerinn]

They should have left the houses for FC only, that way only people that can get rank 6 FC can get houses and ppl can't pluck them all up for to resell or w/e. Then people could have had their own rooms with flowerpots. The way it is right now just isn't working and isn't fair to people wanting to start new FCs.

do you know how easy it is to get a rank 6 solo FC though? it would definitely make it slightly more difficult but not by much...

[Melchar]

Instead of venting pure frustration what about some possible solution? You said ""Please do it better. Please do it sooner. And please do it with heart for everyone"" so I count with how?

That burden isn't on us as a fanbase. At this point you are just being contrarian as an exercise. We can make a list of demands but it doesn't really matter. What matters is no repeats of what has already occurred. Instead of trying to poke holes in people's comments, perhaps you could lend your own instead of speaking for the devs themselves. No one is so stupid to think they set out with intention of trying to piss everyone off. Of course not, but they need to do better next time. We're here to remind them of that. We're not asking for something outlandish like what happened in 2.1. What they do need it to have their content functioning and not gated behind walls that are artificially insurmountable due to inaction on part of the devs(e.g. housing).