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  1. #61
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    Melchar's Avatar
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    Melchar Asbrand
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I guess it just comes down to the fact that you're asking them to "do the right thing" and "take ownership of this mistake and spend the resources necessary to fix this glaring issue" when they've already announced steps to do exactly that
    Ashkendor, thanks for your thoughtful response. I am keenly aware of this having worked around the edges of the industry and I recognize that my response alone will not necessarily affect an immediate change given the pipeline and challenges of FFXIV's dev and content team. I own a house myself, I am frustrated by friends whose hard work is negated by an inefficient system. My main goal here is to voice my opinion and make sure they know we're watching and waiting for a different resolution, one that will mean something. It matters to call it out, it matters to call them on solely for the fact that they know what we think/feel.
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  2. #62
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    FFXI
    I want to field this question. FFXI mog house was very simple and not very taxing on the system. First FFXI used a grid system so you could only have certain items in certain spot, unlike FFXIV where you can have items float in mid air. The system has to remember every detail and save that so it displays for any one who enters.

    Second FFXI really didn't have and instance system in place so it wasn't an issue. In fact you couldn't even let people into your Mog House until late in the life cycle. FFXIV housing shares with the data center's DF service thus can create strain on content like dungeon, trials, raids, and so on. We first saw this issue when housing first came out and had to make the changes where characters appear in wards instead of house after logging in or exiting a instance.

    Third FFXIV wasn't trying to create a simple house but rather a player village. Sadly the content fell to the way side because the devs have been focusing on making house for every player. I hope we can get back to that original concept after 3.3 drops.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
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    Was just trying to put some humor on the forum because it became really salty since yesterday... ;_;
    Don't be mad at me sempai

    But back on topic. I don't get why people want SE to make public anouncement that they goofed up/apologies. It won't solve anything. They are already in the knowledge of the current situation and are trying to solve it. The player base right now want to be told that they were right (If there was any such thing) to compensate something I can't point my finger on.
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  4. #64
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    I for one don't want an announcement of failure or fault. That's apparent. I want a road map to a solution. I likely won't get it, but either the roadmap or the effective solution alone would be nice. It's stupid to see good players languishing behind an arbitrary resource gate when all other requirements and capabilities are in place.
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  5. #65
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    Sterne Evans
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melchar View Post
    I for one don't want an announcement of failure or fault. That's apparent. I want a road map to a solution. I likely won't get it, but either the roadmap or the effective solution alone would be nice. It's stupid to see good players languishing behind an arbitrary resource gate when all other requirements and capabilities are in place.
    I agree.

    There's a big difference between: "Hey we're gonna do this thing." and "Hey, we're gonna do this thing in 20 days and this is how said thing is going to work."
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    ~Life itself is an exercise in exceptions

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterne View Post
    And no, not because they didn't get a house, but because they spent hours of their morning afternoon and evening waiting for a chance to get a house. I for one abandoned a family dinner, breakfast and a generally good holiday waiting for housing to benefit
    My FC leader and I did just that, waited around literally all day for the plot we wanted to be taken by the neighbors because "We wanted another house lol". I guess they needed one of those small houses to store all their gil
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfLegend View Post
    Was just trying to put some humor on the forum because it became really salty since yesterday... ;_;
    Don't be mad at me sempai
    Ahhaha yeah the forums have had so many different flavors of salt the past couple of days. >.<

    Humor in text is hard, especially since some people say absurd things and actually believe them. x_x

    Quote Originally Posted by Deesei View Post
    My FC leader and I did just that, waited around literally all day for the plot we wanted to be taken by the neighbors because "We wanted another house lol". I guess they needed one of those small houses to store all their gil
    They're doing it wrong. You're supposed to store all your gil in a giant swimming pool.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Can't be more clear than this.
    This is just a general statement. It's likely all we'll get and its been presented to me already. What I want to make sure is they don't half-ace it. We can say "Oh they won't" but SE has definitely botched stuff like this in the past. This statement doesn't preclude the need to voice our opinions. It's also why I am not raving right now.
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  10. #70
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I've long since given up on the idea of having my own home. The pricing alone dissuades me, to say nothing of the fact that it currently isn't possible for the team to add in enough to meet the demand (for now). Sadly, there are quite a few features tied to housing, namely chocobo colouring, so most of my alts on my account won't be able to colour their chocbo (for now). But my characters that are in FCs, and these FCs are fortunate enough to have a home, I'm content with just having an FC room.

    I've personally always been partial to EverQuest 2's player housing system, but I don't think the current hardware could handle it (again, at the moment). Plus, it's more akin to having huge FC rooms.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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