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  1. #421
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    Kyra's Avatar
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    Kyra Narese
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    Im not playing no crappy harp-bow Ranger/bard hybrid. There goes my favorite class.
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  2. #422
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    Endemerrin's Avatar
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    Sylve Lowen
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyra View Post
    Im not playing no crappy harp-bow Ranger/bard hybrid. There goes my favorite class.
    Your class isn't going anywhere. You'll still be able to fill the role of a damage dealer. You just won't be able to if you play it's job.
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  3. #423
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    This doesnt screw up anything lol, jobs are the platforms to define your own roles lmao not classes and is in itself an expansion to the armoury system. How can this not be good for the game? It doesnt confuse anyone, you select Bard and your a bard. It just so happens that this bard can shoot arrows. The potential for growth in terms of strategy is huge.
    Ugh, learn the game.
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  4. #424
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    Travesty Eidolon
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    The problem with Archer breaking down to Bard is that the progression is asinine from a lore and from a practical perspective. An instrument playing class like Musician or something should have been introduced, and then broken down as Bard, and Archer should have broken down into something else like some kind of ranger or assassin that wields different arrows or something. Those kinds of progressions make sense.

    Wielding a bow and a musical instrument are 2 completely different kinds of disciplines that in ANY kind of practical world, fantasy or otherwise, both require completely separate dedication and have nothing to do with one another.

    Much like sticking a feather up your butt does not make you a chicken, sticking a harp/lyre/trumpet/whatever on a bow does not make an Archer a musician. It's just a silly concept that ultimately has a pretty simple fix with a little more work from the devs.
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  5. #425
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    Bladed Arms
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    Your class isn't going anywhere. You'll still be able to fill the role of a damage dealer. You just won't be able to if you play it's job.
    highly unlikely. If they design these new jobs, who specialize in DD and they cant noticeably beat a vanilla archer, then those classes have no reason to exist. If they perform similarly to archer, then archer is really the only god class with 2 roles it can perform in a party at a high level.

    Thats not to say this wont be the case, the dev team has had some rather large oversights about the archer class before, but i would have to hope the classes who sacrifice versatility to dd, can actually you know DD.
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  6. #426
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    Sarail Clay
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I fully expected Archer to turn into Ranger or Sniper. Bard IS quite strange. But I'll give it a go once patch hits! ^_^
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  7. #427
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    Andrien Bellcross
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    It could transform into a Crossbow. >_>? Who knows
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  8. #428
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    This doesnt screw up anything lol, jobs are the platforms to define your own roles lmao not classes and is in itself an expansion to the armoury system. How can this not be good for the game? It doesnt confuse anyone, you select Bard and your a bard. It just so happens that this bard can shoot arrows. The potential for growth in terms of strategy is huge.
    What you just said makes no sense. Jobs are specifically being implemented to restrict a class into a singular role. That is the exact opposite of self definition. It is in fact a way to force players into predefined party roles rather than allow them dto decide on their own play style.

    If Jobs were to assist in the definition of ones own role they would not have a singular role in a party.
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  9. #429
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    Umo Heima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    It could transform into a Crossbow. >_>? Who knows
    Good point there, Andrien. This makes sense to me. About the "Bard-harp-lyre-instrument" theory... Hmmm... Meh.
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  10. #430
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    highly unlikely. If they design these new jobs, who specialize in DD and they cant noticeably beat a vanilla archer, then those classes have no reason to exist. If they perform similarly to archer, then archer is really the only god class with 2 roles it can perform in a party at a high level.

    Thats not to say this wont be the case, the dev team has had some rather large oversights about the archer class before, but i would have to hope the classes who sacrifice versatility to dd, can actually you know DD.
    True, if you level up archer, you basically levelled up two classes to 50 for the price of one. Bard and archer.

    Luckily I have archer at 50, suh-weeeet.

    (actually it's still really lame)
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