When will you really address the housing availability problem?

[Kaurie]

Tbh, you would think these players have better use for that money, I personally wouldn't pay for a game that I'm not loving.

The idea is that people may be enjoying the game but taking breaks, i.e. log on the month of patch for 1 month, then off for 2 months then back on etc.. With 45 days renewal, they'll need to make it 2/3 months subbed instead of 1/3. I am not sure how many people actually do this though, nor do I know how many people who own a house are currently unsubbed. It's all guesswork!

[Gyson]

While the recent news on expanding the current wards and the repeated intention to add housing to Ishgard is good news, the additional news on apartment housing is very disturbing.

To me, that's a sign of Square washing their hands free and clear of the whole housing shortage fiasco once and for all. Because once there's enough apartments available for everyone they'll be able to claim they've resolved the issue, despite the fact that they know only a small percentage of players will actually have an in-game house with a yard that is physically placed in a neighborhood (which I suspect most will prefer to some instanced tiny room in an apartment building).

I really wish rather than wasting development resources on this disappointing "solution" they would invest that effort into making the current type of housing available to everyone.

[Zojha]

I really wish rather than wasting development resources on this disappointing "solution" they would invest that effort into making the current type of housing available to everyone.

Well the solution to current housing is simple: Add wards until everyone has a house, upgrading servers as necessary. Now, a server like Balmung has like what, 25000 players? If one ward has 30 houses, that means 834 wards are necessary total. Less with subdivisions. Discounting people who have more than one house and FCs go extra. Even if we assume a quarter of the playerbase has zero interest in housing whatsoever, that's a truckload.

I have a rough idea why they don't attempt to make current housing available to everyone - it's not feasible.

[Shyle]

Or they just do what other MMO's did with housing (instanced). Every player can have a house. There, solved. Wildstar does it fairly well (you can visit other houses, etc..etc..) I think Rift does something like that as well. Even Garrisons, as bad as they were in WoW, still allowed everyone to have a "house" of sorts.

[Gyson]

Well the solution to current housing is simple: Add wards until everyone has a house, upgrading servers as necessary. Now, a server like Balmung has like what, 25000 players? If one ward has 30 houses, that means 834 wards are necessary total. Less with subdivisions. Discounting people who have more than one house and FCs go extra. Even if we assume a quarter of the playerbase has zero interest in housing whatsoever, that's a truckload.

I have a rough idea why they don't attempt to make current housing available to everyone - it's not feasible.

Tell that to Turbine. From a gameplay perspective they use the exact same structure as FFXIV - 4 regions for player neighborhoods with 30 houses per neighborhood. There's a 250 neighborhood limit per region. That's *30,000* homes compared to FFXIV's 1,440.. and their game is free-to-play, going on 7 years old now, and dealing with *much* older server hardware. Someone should have told them it wasn't feasible.

[Zojha]

Tell that to Turbine.

Does that game/developer have to remove other UI elements in order to make TP bars without numbers possible...?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

PS3 limitations

[Cylla]

Or they just do what other MMO's did with housing (instanced). Every player can have a house. There, solved. Wildstar does it fairly well (you can visit other houses, etc..etc..) I think Rift does something like that as well. Even Garrisons, as bad as they were in WoW, still allowed everyone to have a "house" of sorts.

They did this as well in AION and had an auction system for housing.
Even now I don't understand how this system can be so backwards. XI had mog houses, everyone had one, we just lacked a yard and anything super fancy. Why in the hell after 15 years (since XI) is housing still an issue with SE? You'd think that SE would've taken from XI and just advanced it to meet the demands of today player base. But we all know SE excuse to this- servers lack the room, as with everything else... like inventory space.

PS3 limitations

Well, yes, there also that issue....but even still they could've taken XI model and just advanced slightly more. Even now with Xbox and PS2 players they got a mog house that has two floors and supports the whole player base (which lol isn't very many people left but still)

[Shyle]

They did this as well in AION and had an auction system for housing.
Even now I don't understand how this system can be so backwards. XI had mog houses, everyone had one, we just lacked a yard and anything super fancy. Why in the hell after 15 years (since XI) is housing still an issue with SE? You'd think that SE would've taken from XI and just advanced it to meet the demands of today player base. But we all know SE excuse to this- servers lack the room, as with everything else... like inventory space.

Oh yeah! I completely forgot about the moghouse in XI, I rarely ever went in mine other than to put a few tabards and flags in that I earned via the city-state quests (or whatever they were called at the time). I still think Wildstar has the best housing in modern MMO's, it's amazing to see what people have done with their plots.

[Kosmos992k]

PS3 limitations

PS3, White Knight Chronicles 1 & 2, player 'housing' in the form of a complete village of your own, more like PS3 advantage....