Yoshi - Players who "Like" Challenges would ALSO like to obtain a Relic Weapon

[Molic]

What i dont understand is why can't they make the relic questline fun?

In 1.0 you have to do hamlets(the grindy part)
Then materia meld a weapon
then do speed runs of av/cc(which speed running dungeons, did at first take a bit more planning in 1.0 compared to 2.0)
then do a unique(to each relic weapon) leve quest that was kinda challenging/hard
then defeat garuda with 0 deaths
then kill ifrit extreme and you got a relic.

Now its just fate grind/dungeon grind/old content grind.


Which one of those sounds more fun to you?

[Reaperking386]

What i dont understand is why can't they make the relic questline fun?

In 1.0 you have to do hamlets(the grindy part)
Then materia meld a weapon
then do speed runs of av/cc(which speed running dungeons, did at first take a bit more planning in 1.0 compared to 2.0)
then do a unique(to each relic weapon) leve quest that was kinda challenging/hard
then defeat garuda with 0 deaths
then kill ifrit extreme and you got a relic.

Now its just fate grind/dungeon grind/old content grind.


Which one of those sounds more fun to you?

You never did Garuda Ex or Ifirit Ex. It was Hard mode at the time.

[Molic]

You never did Garuda Ex or Ifirit Ex. It was Hard mode at the time.

I never said garuda was EX, i said it had to be killed with 0 deaths. and ifrit was the extreme mode....

[Felessan]

Make it so only 3.x trials and raids can contribute (with rewards dependant on the content type/difficulty), so then you don't get people doing unsynced Coil runs.

Would you be happy if Savage will give you 2 precision items instead of 1? probably not. If you give 50 of them - it'll be just a shortcut for a few, and relic never meant this way.
Relic always was a trial of patience and efficiency, equal to everybody (except probably the very first step) and a way to reinvigorate old content.

This long grind for some stats that will just get replaced by another weapon. There's no attachment for this grind. This no attachment for any of these rewards in game.

Relic always was a status item in FF14, not the most usefull item. It always came when another weapon on the same level was readily available and already farmed out by average hardcore groups. There is no real benefit to switch one 135 weapon to another with minor improvement in secondary stats in long-farmed content.
Relics always treated as a proof that person capable to withstand associated grind. The same as with SCoB Savage titles - no real benefit, just a proof of your ability.

[Lorielle]

Relics always treated as a proof that person capable to withstand associated grind. The same as with SCoB Savage titles - no real benefit, just a proof of your ability.

It's fine being that. But it should be more than JUST that. It shows your patience and determination. However, that patience and determination should also be rewarded with something great. Not something easily interchanged or replaced.

[Tilgung]

It's fine being that. But it should be more than JUST that. It shows your patience and determination. However, that patience and determination should also be rewarded with something great. Not something easily interchanged or replaced.

Why should it be better than equipment people obtain from conquering the hardest content in the game?

[Lorielle]

Why should it be better than equipment people obtain from conquering the hardest content in the game?

Zodiac Zeta was better than Bahamut Weapons. Ey Yo. Why? Because you're going through long recycled grinding for a "Powerful Weapon". Why shouldn't it be? But then again, hey, we can settle for weapons that aren't unique in any way. Can keep it super care bear. Raid Weapon or Grind Weapon. They'll do the same thing basically. Whoop.

Not really.
Maybe gameplay wise. But lore wise it changed the owner and the new owner gave you the crystals.

It's not a lore issue. It's a game play issue.

[Khyan]

The same as with SCoB Savage titles - no real benefit, just a proof of your ability.

It's not a good example since now you can do every old content unsynched and still get the rewards and titles. It's not a proof then since it's really, really easy to do it unsynched.

[ServerCollaps]

You never did Garuda Ex or Ifirit Ex. It was Hard mode at the time.

hes talking about 1.0 relic, you are talking about 2.0 relic

as yoshi said, they will never ever implement challenging content again, because way too less people completed the 2.0 relic and they want to give everyone the chance to obtain it with some time effort