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    You guys forget one thing.

    People wanted chocobos for travel only because there were no prior options for traveling beforehand, you're now getting it.

    People are now bitching that there is no epic questline to obtain said chocobo. Once again you forget that this is Just targeting the traveling problem. Your content that includes chocobos will be included further down the line.

    Consider this: Rental chocobos are the slower than Company chocobos. Devs have already stated that chocobo raising will come in some form and in my opinion will be more taxing on time and resources than company chocobos. From what they are stating, chocobos will be able to do battle as well eventually.

    This means choco raising will involve raising either or both:
    1: Chocobo stats for battle how much it can attack for, endurance level etc)
    2: Speed: I have no doubt that personal raised chocobos will be even faster than company chocobos, since you have the option of focusing on raising its speed.

    Don't complain that theres nothing to do with chocobos right now. The main point of this update was to allow faster travel, and thats what you are getting.

    By the time noobs hit level 10, they can easily afford a chocobo ride by renting one.
    By level 20-25, they can participate in the escort quests to get more seals. Depending on the restriction of how many people can participate/ how often you can do this/ the reward of escort quests, players will be able to afford the company chocobos quite easily enough. I suspect by level 30, most, if not all, players will have a personal chocobo of their own simply by doing the escort quests, then rank 25 dungeon quest and whatever new company quests get introduced in 1.19.

    Level 50 folks who have access to completing the darkhold quest will have a much easier time in this regard simply because they have access to a higher level quest that offers more seals. They also have access to the lower level escort quest which they will be able to solo easily enough.

    The one thing that is the unknown factor is the company induction itself. If i recall from NPC chats, getting into a company will cost X amount of seals, which I'm betting will be quite low. There is a chance it could be 1000 seals or it could be even 250 seals, I don't know, we'll find out in 1.19.

    I have a feeling that once you get inducted into the company, your rank will rise from recruit to whatever the next level is. However, there is still a chance that the possibility of induction simply locking you into a company. This means you might have to spend Y amount of seals to rank up to something other than a recruit.

    Either way, you can bet your chocobos that there will be tantalizing equipment that will become available to purchase once you are fully inducted. It'll just be a matter of deciding what you want first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darte View Post
    You guys forget one thing.

    People wanted chocobos for travel only because there were no prior options for traveling beforehand, you're now getting it.

    People are now bitching that there is no epic questline to obtain said chocobo. Once again you forget that this is Just targeting the traveling problem. Your content that includes chocobos will be included further down the line.

    Consider this: Rental chocobos are the slower than Company chocobos. Devs have already stated that chocobo raising will come in some form and in my opinion will be more taxing on time and resources than company chocobos. From what they are stating, chocobos will be able to do battle as well eventually.

    This means choco raising will involve raising either or both:
    1: Chocobo stats for battle how much it can attack for, endurance level etc)
    2: Speed: I have no doubt that personal raised chocobos will be even faster than company chocobos, since you have the option of focusing on raising its speed.

    Don't complain that theres nothing to do with chocobos right now. The main point of this update was to allow faster travel, and thats what you are getting.

    By the time noobs hit level 10, they can easily afford a chocobo ride by renting one.
    By level 20-25, they can participate in the escort quests to get more seals. Depending on the restriction of how many people can participate/ how often you can do this/ the reward of escort quests, players will be able to afford the company chocobos quite easily enough. I suspect by level 30, most, if not all, players will have a personal chocobo of their own simply by doing the escort quests, then rank 25 dungeon quest and whatever new company quests get introduced in 1.19.

    Level 50 folks who have access to completing the darkhold quest will have a much easier time in this regard simply because they have access to a higher level quest that offers more seals. They also have access to the lower level escort quest which they will be able to solo easily enough.

    The one thing that is the unknown factor is the company induction itself. If i recall from NPC chats, getting into a company will cost X amount of seals, which I'm betting will be quite low. There is a chance it could be 1000 seals or it could be even 250 seals, I don't know, we'll find out in 1.19.

    I have a feeling that once you get inducted into the company, your rank will rise from recruit to whatever the next level is. However, there is still a chance that the possibility of induction simply locking you into a company. This means you might have to spend Y amount of seals to rank up to something other than a recruit.

    Either way, you can bet your chocobos that there will be tantalizing equipment that will become available to purchase once you are fully inducted. It'll just be a matter of deciding what you want first.
    We dont want a Super long difficult epic quest line with 8 hours of content and an impossible boss fight or anything remotely like that.

    We just want A QUEST.

    We do not want to simply buy our Chocobo. We do not want to do a bunch of entirely unrelated activities to earn a secondary currencery to buy our Chocobos.

    We just want a freakin quest that explains why there are now Chocobos where ours came from and how we earned it's trust.

    Buying your Chocobo for what WILL be a very common currency is not fun in any way. The Travel problem was solved by rentals. We don't need more things just thrown at us without being incorporated into the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    We dont want a Super long difficult epic quest line with 8 hours of content and an impossible boss fight or anything remotely like that.

    We just want A QUEST.

    We do not want to simply buy our Chocobo. We do not want to do a bunch of entirely unrelated activities to earn a secondary currencery to buy our Chocobos.

    We just want a freakin quest that explains why there are now Chocobos where ours came from and how we earned it's trust.

    Buying your Chocobo for what WILL be a very common currency is not fun in any way. The Travel problem was solved by rentals. We don't need more things just thrown at us without being incorporated into the world.
    Again, this is just the starting point for travel options. If you want a comparison, take world of warcraft. I haven't played it in years so excuse me if I get a few things wrong. From what I remember, you get access to a mount around the 20s (i think they lowered that even more now) that gave you 60% speed. Further down the line, you could by mounts that had 100% speed, and even further more speed/flying etc etc.

    What the devs are introducing right now are 2 variations of chocobos, one that is timed at 10 minutes and is slow (but faster than walking), and another that has no time limit and is faster than rental.

    You're right though, this isn't one of those "how I earned its trust" chocobos. These are wartime steeds that are given to those who earn it. Remember, NPCs have said there aren't enough chocos to go around. The reason why is because companies are in dire need of steeds to give to their forces. When you become a member of a company, you are able to earn a chocobo through quests/missions/escorts by earning seals, the currency of the companies. This currency says, hey i'm not just some random dude who joined up for the sake of getting my own chocobo. You earned those seals, so you earned that chocobo allotment.

    The quest that explains where your chocobo came from IS chocobo raising, which is NOT being implemented in 1.19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darte View Post
    You're right though, this isn't one of those "how I earned its trust" chocobos. These are wartime steeds that are given to those who earn it. Remember, NPCs have said there aren't enough chocos to go around. The reason why is because companies are in dire need of steeds to give to their forces. When you become a member of a company, you are able to earn a chocobo through quests/missions/escorts by earning seals, the currency of the companies. This currency says, hey i'm not just some random dude who joined up for the sake of getting my own chocobo. You earned those seals, so you earned that chocobo allotment.
    I can't +1 this hard enough.

    From the company standpoint these particular birds are meant entirely for their utility. chocobos are being provided by the companies to members proving themselves by rank and seal. They are trained mounts meant for use in support of the company, and in support of the city states the companies are sworn to protect. It may be best to think of them like any other provision granted to a soldier based on rank and duty. These are not your pets and not your close personal friends.

    Adventurers are not tied down like the more stationary members of the companies. It seems only reasonable for the companies to exploit this mobility by bolstering it further.


    The situation will probably be explained when ranking up within a chosen company or specifically when purchasing a company issue chocobo. I could see a cut scene explaining the situation as your character has a conversation with the company quartermaster during the assignment of the issuance.
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