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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    I love the forums. People pick one thing and try to go on and on about that one thing. Sorry you and a few others can't accept what I'm telling you. You're just wrong. I do beast tribes in under 7 min ALL THE TIME. A friend of mine does too! If you get a Fate quest, just do something else and come back later to see if it's up! Don't sit around waiting for it, staring at the screen! I've already said this! Or afk at the fate location and get RL stuff done! I don't count the time I spend doing laundry or homework towards the time it takes me to do beast tribes, why would I? I'm still being productive with my time. So, yes, Fates do add to your time of completion but why would you add that to the time it takes you to do the quest if you're not even playing the game during the wait?

    ALSO:

    1) I SAID THAT MY TIMES WERE A "ROUGH ESTIMATE." If sometimes beast tribes take 8 min, sometimes they only take 6, but sue me if the average is closer to 8. I WAS NEVER SHOOTING FOR THAT LEVEL OF PRECISION.

    2) EVEN IF BEAST TRIBES TAKE A FULL 30 MIN LONGER, YOU CAN STILL COMPLETE THE RELIC IN A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME WITHOUT RUNNING ALEXANDER ONCE!

    And as for the comment that I was being "misleading" that was just reading comprehension problems on your part. No one can farm 1.1 tokens or .42 or fractional tokens, period. This and my use of the word "average" should have made it clear that you don't get an unid item from beast tribes every day. BUT IF YOU GET 4 AFTER 4 DAYS, THE AVERAGE IS STILL ONE!

    I absolutely will not waste further time discussing this part of my post with you or anyone else. My methods have been explained. I just think some people want to maintain their negative stance towards the relic and carry it to the bitter end. But this is not productive. There are things we do in life. These things are all a choice. They are not always our absolute favorite things but we choose to do them for whatever reason (to have the reward of a relic, for example). Complaining may get SE to change things in the future and I'm sure these steps will be nerfed eventually. BUT FOR NOW THE ONLY RELEVANT QUESTIONS ARE: AM I GOING TO DO THIS? AND: IF I AM, HOW CAN I BE THE MOST EFFICIENT AT IT?

    If you continue to disagree with any part of anything I said, that's fine, JUST DON'T DO THE ACTIVITY YOU THINK I AM MISLEADING YOU ABOUT!
    Thank you for finally admitting it can take more than 30 minutes to run the tribes, and in doing so proving that the numbers don't add up as stated. That is what it was all about.

    And for the record, I haven't been saying anything negative about the new relic path. The point was that what you presented was an inaccurate account for that approach.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    I am guessing a majority of the complaints are coming from those who never did the original relic quests as they were current, but did them after the nerfs.
    I know of six people in my FC that would vehemently disagree with you, seven if you include me. But quite frankly, we've voiced our complaints in a logical manner...and we're done. I cancelled my subscription a few days ago, and my FC all did around the same time. Frankly, we're simply tired of being ignored and crapped on. Time will tell if SE actually gives a s**t; if not, their loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarik View Post
    I know of six people in my FC that would vehemently disagree with you, seven if you include me. But quite frankly, we've voiced our complaints in a logical manner...and we're done. I cancelled my subscription a few days ago, and my FC all did around the same time. Frankly, we're simply tired of being ignored and crapped on. Time will tell if SE actually gives a s**t; if not, their loss.
    what complaints? there were "worse" relic steps in the past. I dont know what you expected

    the quest itself is a blessing for the game, it revitalizes all new areas and unused content and makes all the unrewarding stuff rewarding
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    what complaints? there were "worse" relic steps in the past. I dont know what you expected

    the quest itself is a blessing for the game, it revitalizes all new areas and unused content and makes all the unrewarding stuff rewarding
    How? It makes us do fates in heavenward...no one did them anyways to begin with as dungeons was a better to way level...makes us then go back on old dungeons ok that bit imo is the good part, then it makes us do Alex normal um most players will have 200+ ilvl gear so the old alex stuff is pointless, good for upgrading you alts but that is about it.

    So then it comes back to how does the relic help? I makes me do old content that is no longer needed or used anymore.
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  5. #45
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    Nothing about this path makes anyone do any alex runs. That is purely an optional path. This relic is a remarkably easy path to do...well, except maybe obtaining all the HQ crafted items at the end. That could be extremely tedious or extremely expensive at the current state of the game, but it should become more accessible over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    How? It makes us do fates in heavenward...no one did them anyways to begin with as dungeons was a better to way level...makes us then go back on old dungeons ok that bit imo is the good part, then it makes us do Alex normal um most players will have 200+ ilvl gear so the old alex stuff is pointless, good for upgrading you alts but that is about it.

    So then it comes back to how does the relic help? I makes me do old content that is no longer needed or used anymore.
    I think you missed the memo that told us we can get unidentified items from: Tomestones of law, Tomestones of poetics, Allied Seals, Treasure Maps, Alexander Normal token drops, Beast Tribe Quests.

    The above list does not just say: Alexander Normal.

    We have been given options, players choose what they want to do. No one is being forced to grind Alexander Normal. Hell, no one is being forced to grind. You can casually do this with whatever options you want like roulettes and spending the tomestones on the items.
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 12-20-2015 at 08:13 AM.

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    3 days until the first guys finished their weapons, gg

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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    what complaints? there were "worse" relic steps in the past. I dont know what you expected

    the quest itself is a blessing for the game, it revitalizes all new areas and unused content and makes all the unrewarding stuff rewarding
    I'm tired of repeating myself to infinity, so I'll just copy/paste a previous post I made.

    What we are upset about is twofold.

    First: We are upset with this disturbing trend of re-using old content and calling it new; this 'new' relic quest is but the last iteration in a long line of this. As stated before, the grind is an integral part of this game. The trick is to make the grind enjoyable and interesting. This new relic quest is embarrassing due to the fact that none of it's content is new. Nothing. The only thing new is the weapon, and only the 210 one at that; they couldn't even make a different model for the starting piece. This is not fun, this is repetitive, un-creative and uninspired.

    Second: The second complaint derives from the first; the dev team has continuously stated that they're pushing the relic quest back over and over because it wasn't ready. Quite frankly, I'm insulted that they thought we were that stupid. What is new in this relic quest? Here's what's new; the relic weapons themselves, and the items needed for the quest, plus some dialogue. That's it. There are no new fights, no new mechanics, and no new ideas. Everything else has already been done, they simply need to copy/paste the old code and change a few words to adapt to the new items introduced. Saying that a team of 200 people needed to postpone this content not once, but twice, due to it not being finished is beyond laughable. The real reason they released it now? Because they know 3.1 was a horrendous flop, and they're trying to keep people subscribed up to the 3.2 patch. Don't be naive to think otherwise, you're smarter than that, I would hope.
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  9. #49
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    That's much better than my less efficient, more tedious method for grinding all phases of Anima Relic

    I'm skipping it entirely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    logical grind ideas
    or you can have no life and grind 16 hour days for the turn ins. #souldwithoutlife

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nimus-relic%21
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