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    Purrfectstorm's Avatar
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    Purrfect Storm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethaeryn View Post
    Sorry, I don't want to be another nitpicking person and point out problems with the math, but just trying to help.

    You get 100 tomes from the bonus on level 50 roulette, but the dungeons give various amounts of tomes. You can get as few as 20 from older dungeons like the normal mode Amdapor Keep and Wanderer's Palace. So some days you might only get 120 tomes instead of 150. I don't think that'll make a big difference in your overall calculations since you're getting like 120-150 more poetics per day than law tomes with your planned path.

    But that brings about another question: Did you take into account that you only get two of the tokens from poetics and two from law tomes? Seems like you'll be finishing the poetics items early and the law items a bit late with this path. Maybe I missed something, or maybe you can trade tokens around or something and I just don't know about it yet. If you throw out the Frontlines roulette and switch it to Level 60 roulette instead, you'd finish a bit faster. Assuming all of the numbers you provided are correct - I'm not logged in to check at the moment.
    LOL it's no problem, it's a fair question

    I actually averaged out the rewards from level 50 dungeons. I think there was 910 total poetics divided by 17 dungeons, so 53 poetics on average apart from your 100 roulette bonus. So assuming all dungeons have an equal queue chance (probably not 100% true but close enough) then you'd actually get 153.

    As for the 2nd part of your question. I didn't really factor in the difference but you're right, you would finish the poetic tokens first but I think it's only a difference of about 1.3 per week, so you could just change the plan up a little bit in the final 2 weeks, if you wanted.
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    Aethaeryn's Avatar
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    I forgot potential new player bonuses for the level 50 dungeons/main scenario too, so you could actually finish the poetics tokens significantly faster. I have only been running into other people working on the relic since Wednesday, however, so I guess that may not happen too often.

    Either way, thanks for the post! I'm actually mostly okay with the grind but wish it had come a bit sooner. I hope prices come down for the crafted stuff soon though. I don't really know any crafters on Hyperion and I only have cooking and leatherworking done so far because lazy.
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    My strategy is to just keep doing what i've been doing and get my relic when it comes.
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    Definitelynot Godbert
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    Behemoth
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    You almost made the Anima grind look viable, but then ya had to ruin it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    I bought mine on Cactuar for 10m gil but I'm sure that price will come down in time.
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    Tiger Undie
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xvshanevx View Post
    You almost made the Anima grind look viable, but then ya had to ruin it...
    it will take about 4 weeks until most player even need the crafted items, I'm quite sure the price will fall, if you give it those 4 weeks
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    This is great yea I got lucky some of my other classes need Alex gear so this is the only time I love how badly RNG is treating me cause I'm killing like 3 birds with one stone, with getting gear the precision Gordon pieces and some law....

    I also just do my daily beast tribe quest as normal and all my rouletts but no front lines as it takes days for it Que and I barely hunt lol so I hope things work out right now I don't mind it...well except the money part :/
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Just ignore the <specific FATE> quests and dump the rest of your allowance into Vanu.
    They may need 18 instead of 13 token per item but you can buy all items from them and you will save a ton of dumb waiting for a FATE to appear.
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    and in the end everyone will notice that this step is less time and gil consuming then the novus upgrade was and most complaints are unjustified
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    and in the end everyone will notice that this step is less time and gil consuming then the novus upgrade was and most complaints are unjustified
    This is pretty much true. It was originally 800 tomes per Mysterious Map, for a converted cost of about 60,000 tomes. The 80 tokens for Anima are worth 54,400 tomes--a difference of about 6,000. Now, you did get one free map from Expert Roulette each day, so it's hard to do an absolutely direct comparison--in the end most folks likely spent significantly fewer than that 60,000 tomes on Mysterious Maps.

    But when you throw in the costs for Materia Melding, the cost of Novus skyrockets compared to that of the Anima weapons. While the prices on the tokens are high right now, they're steadily declining and should be far more reasonable in the end. They also can't *break* on you when you try to turn them in, the way Materia could for Novus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    This is pretty much true. It was originally 800 tomes per Mysterious Map, for a converted cost of about 60,000 tomes. The 80 tokens for Anima are worth 54,400 tomes--a difference of about 6,000. Now, you did get one free map from Expert Roulette each day, so it's hard to do an absolutely direct comparison--in the end most folks likely spent significantly fewer than that 60,000 tomes on Mysterious Maps.
    getting the tomes is way easier now then it was 1 year ago. Doing the beast daylies which takes about 30 minutes is 1 safe token per day (like the expert daylie earlier)
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