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  1. #11
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    Platinumstorm's Avatar
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    Chardut Mazzma
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    Archer Lv 100
    I think it gives them an opportunity to make a really interesting and polished class. I just hope they don't screw it up.
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  2. #12
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    At least we've got a few months to rank up a real DD to 50. The people who do want to play BRD had better get spamming arrows for now. I don't know why SE is going out of their way to destroy a class. First the lack of auto attack, now this.
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    Betelgeuzah's Avatar
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    At least we've got a few months to rank up a real DD to 50. The people who do want to play BRD had better get spamming arrows for now. I don't know why SE is going out of their way to destroy a class. First the lack of auto attack, now this.
    Archer isn't going to be nerfed.

    But the role of primary ranged DD is going to go, and there are more than enough gameplay-related justifications for this.

    As far as music goes, they've been doing quite a few remixes as of late (like the battle music in the raids changing, and one of the beastmen fort themes). I could see them remixing the songs too.
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  4. #14
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 90
    There is already Bard music in the game, as a Bard NPC plays it. In LL on the Marauder's ship (cabin area). She plays the first few notes of the theme song, so I would honestly expect that to be the melody that plays as well. >.<; (Although I really hope there are multiple melodies)
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  5. #15
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Archer isn't going to be nerfed.

    But the role of primary ranged DD is going to go, and there are more than enough gameplay-related justifications for this.

    As far as music goes, they've been doing quite a few remixes as of late (like the battle music in the raids changing, and one of the beastmen fort themes). I could see them remixing the songs too.
    Where did I say they are nerfing it? They are turning it into a support job as you say, and this is the issue.
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  6. #16
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    Munba's Avatar
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    Munba Lunru
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 60
    It would be awesome if you could compose in game some short music tunes and attach them to every bard song-ability
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  7. #17
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    Natiya Kyska
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    I don't know if there's any truth to Archer having the Bard job, but...

    Anyone else notice there's a rather small amount of classes? It seems pretty obvious to me there'll be more than one job for each class. Honestly...it's not going to ruin anything...they're like specializations. So an Archer could have either Ranger or Bard I guess. Same thing with Pugilist having Monk OR Thief. It fits.
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  8. #18
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    Sylve Lowen
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    The way I see it, if they made Archer into Ranger, what would be the point of having Musketeer and whatever it's advanced job would be down the road?

    There would be two ranged DD classes unless they turned Muskteer into a support class, which just doesn't seem likely. Guns = hurt. (And Corsair wouldn't really make sense as the advanced job, since Musketeers are opposed to pirates.)

    They're just turning it into a needed support class, and leaving the ranged DD slot open for Musketeer in the future so they don't have two classes that are basically the same with different weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goonMagi View Post
    I really just cant get over it, that they're slamming a hard support class into a DD class and just washing out my favorite job. Hopefully my reaction to that "bow-harp" is way over the top, and SE finds a clever way to make a barcher actually really hard-core support. But something tells me... You can't just pooh on the archer like that. You are going to lose one of the roles, or have a generic and better-than-everyone class that fills too many roles.

    but yea.. sweet tunes man. lets hope.
    I wouldn't worry about it, this is only the first wave of jobs, I expect Ranger will show up in future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    There would be two ranged DD classes unless they turned Muskteer into a support class, which just doesn't seem likely. Guns = hurt. (And Corsair wouldn't really make sense as the advanced job, since Musketeers are opposed to pirates.)
    There are various ways they can do it, elemental bullets / enfeebles etc. Musketeer for example could get Sniper as an advanced class (I think that was a FFT class?) that deals out cripples to different areas of the body etc.
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    Last edited by Sephr; 09-22-2011 at 08:25 PM.

  10. #20
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    Murugan Raj
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Where did I say they are nerfing it? They are turning it into a support job as you say, and this is the issue.
    They aren't "turning it into" anything, archers can simply unlock Bard. They don't have to play as them. They can still be purely ranged DD.
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