Anima Weapons

[TatoRazzino]

The relic is supposed to be grindy and hard to get. If you're a casual player, the i200 is more than enough, or even the Thordan weapon. If you want a i210 weapon, work for it. People who bitch about grinding things have never played MMOs in their lives. Grinding is a part of any MMO.

[Raxiaz]

The relic is supposed to be grindy and hard to get. If you're a casual player, the i200 is more than enough, or even the Thordan weapon. If you want a i210 weapon, work for it. People who bitch about grinding things have never played MMOs in their lives. Grinding is a part of any MMO.

And you know what? I'm starting to think those people who have never played an MMO in their lives are better off doing so. The grind isn't fun, and it never was fun. It's simply a lazy way for the devs to keep subs by making arbitrary gates.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

I know alot of people have been complaining about bad choices and poor design on the devs, and I'll say that the quest line was very lazy and lackluster. But on the flip side, they may have done some things right.

The crystal grind was not something new to us, a lot of us have done this before, and good on you if you got to skip this step. While some are okay with it, others hate it. But what if it was done on purpose and not just to recycle content, but to maybe actually get people out of idyllshire and their housing district and make the zones come alive with players to help newer players level? Maybe this was their plan, much like 2.0 atma. Newer players flooded into the game due to its launch on the PS4 at the same time.

Dungeoun step is very easy, and like other people have said, its fun to blaze through the older dungeouns in unsynched parties. The newer dungeouns are a bit longer, but like I said previously, maybe this was the plan all along. Get an influx of people into these early dungeouns to curb some of the long que times to help others level.

The last step is where it gets tricky. Its quite a doosey, and will take quite some time for people to complete. On the surface it looks like a lot to do all at once, but in fact, like others have said, there are many ways to get the items you need. Law, Poetics, Alex normal tokens, Treasure Maps, Beast Tribe quests, old hunt marks. While some people don't see this as an ease on the system itself, it is refreshing to have all of these avenues to get tokens. If you get bored doing one thing, you can go on to another. Don't want to run alex normal anymore? Go hunting! This quest might be more of the same song and dance, but it was designed in such a way, that its only as grindy or as annoying as you make it.

As for crafting items needed? This isn't the first time this has happened. But in a previous step it also threw in a brand new thing at the same time, much like the specialty system. Previously, it was desynthing. It was kind of their way of shoe-horning it in, and trying to make it relevant, cause who was actually really looking forward to leveling it when it came out? Same thing with specialtists. It isn't needed by crafters to do the already exsisting recipies, but its forcing them to do something they may or may not have done already to help with your or their own relics.

In conclusion, like many have said in this thread, this quest chain is completely optional. Its not something you have to do. You have to want to do it. It is lackluster, and void of any real challenge, and could use some fresh content to spice it up, but for reasons unknown, we didn't get it and it was put out. Is it bad? I don't think so. It does what it needs to do, and thats fill the void of playtime people that are logging in might have. Thats not to say that it doesn't need improvement, and hopefully we will see something with future patchs, but we just have to take what we have atm. If its not your thing, you can opt out of doing it totally. All you can do is voice your opinion on what you would like to see changed, and hopefully they will see what is being said.

TL : DR - The quests aren't as bad as you think they are. They require quite a bit of time, and might be the same old song and dance, but maybe, just maybe, the devs designed it this way with other motives in mind. Only they know the truth. If you don't like it, the whole thing is optional, and I suggest leaving it alone if you don't enjoy doing it. (sorry for any grammar errors lol)

[TatoRazzino]

I read and read and all I see is "I'm entitled! I'm entitled!". No. You're. Not.

[Raxiaz]

I read and read and all I see is "I'm entitled! I'm entitled!". No. You're. Not.

that's not what is being said at all. And you know something? Paying a subscription DOES entitle me to being able to post here and say whatever is on my mind. Go away, you <insert derogative here> you.