you guys went overboard with this new relic

[SpookyGhost]

Some people and myself personally enjoy working towards a goal, whether it becomes pointless or not.

I guess everyone with this mindset is SE's target audience, then.

[BreathlessTao]

It's just - you know, I really don't get the concept. These weapons are supposed to be legendary, one-of-a-kind-unique things in the realm. And to get such a weapon, we're (once again) forced to do the most menial, the most mind-numbing things for the longest time possible? Things that - "offer no challenge" doesn't even describe them correctly, they're waaaaay below even that. And, once again for what? A piece of glamour, really, because by the time anyone can actually finish this, we'll have i220 weapons from tomes or raids or trials or something. If not i230.

That is, you know, "anyone" who doesn't sacrifice doing everything else in the game, just for this. Because if you want to grind this out, you'll be doing all the roulettes and all the dungeons as a lv60 for too many days to get the (long-deprecated) poetics and law tomes. And after that you'll either be grinding crafters at an insane speed (and let's not forget the daily/weekly lockouts and limits), or you'll be saving up so much gil that'll be enough to buy up an entire housing ward (theoretically, ofc). Goodbye leveling up alt jobs, goodbye gearing up alt jobs - heck, goodbye gearing up your main job too if you haven't yet.
And all this only if you're gonna grind, grind until your eyes bleed and your brain dissipates and your soul is in shreds - in this case you might have a slight chance of finishing the weapon before it turns into a piece of maddeningly expensive glamour.
Otherwise, if you don't want every aspect of your existence to disappear, if you don't want to obsessively grind it out, if you don't have the time to grind out it - you might have a chance of finishing it by, perhaps, 3.5. By which time everyone will be running around with i300 weapons (at least). And then of course, by that time, you'll also have the next 5-6-7 steps ahead of you to do as well.

I really don't know what you, devs, wanted to achieve with this. This is not "giving the players new content", this is not "giving the players content" at all. This is, once again no fun at all, in any way, shape, or form. This is not a viable alternative of getting a relevant weapon at the current time (as it is right now, I'm willing to bet that a fresh player who just picks up Alex normal right now, can get an i210 weapon via that route, through Alex Savage, sooner than they'd finish this), heck, this isn't even a viable alternative of getting a months-ago-relevant weapon. And it's certainly not a reasonable way of getting a piece of glamour (although, with the glamour pieces having the history they have, this bit is hardly surprising).
This is simply a very blatant, maybe even infuriatingly obvious way of forcing lv60 characters back to old content - and for what? Having all the jobs available for everyone to level up is not incentive enough? Is not an amount enough not to have those dungeons dead? Do characters with lv60 battle jobs not have enough things to do? (Well, sort of, with all the restrictions, even if they have the time and mood, they can't grind to have everything geared up, for example). Do characters with lv60 battle jobs really not have anything else (never even mind anything better) to do? Is this a sign that we're gonna have even bigger droughts where doing these things is gonna be necessary to occupy ourselves?
Are we really going to go so much against the core "everything on one character" principle of the game, from now on, that you felt the need to start promoting crafter specialisation in such a way? (Are the daily/weekly limits not enough to go against that?) Do the handful of already filthy rich crafters really need yet more opportunity to gain even more gil that they can't spend anyway because there is nothing to spend it on??

This is simply sadistic. This is simply very, very frightening.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

5 hours no stop of alexander, every day. Can i hear about the salary berore the contract blood sign?

And that besides The 18 Atmas grinding. i quit the old relic because of it and the fate grinding. And guess what? They are back! with even 6 more atmas than the last time. Extra Fun!

Yeah SE the whole playerbase hated it and you bring it up again. Well you can keep this relic too ^^ but i will keep my money then.

If you speed run Alex, it'll take 3-4 minutes. Twenty a day would be roughly 80 minutes. Let's toss an extra hour if you don't have a dedicated group and resort to PuGs. So 140 minutes a day. And once again, this is only if you do nothing but Alex Normal for days on end. If you do other methods alongside that grind, you'll cut the amount of Alex runs down sharply.

[Laerad3993]

It won't make me un-sub. But it sure as hell made me not ever want to touch Relic again. That's fine. The 70m I had allocated for relic can now be spent on other awesome things now. This also gives me the opportunity to play other things and not have to spend so much time in game until 3.2.

[SendohJin]

I really don't know what you, devs, wanted to achieve with this. This is not "giving the players new content", this is not "giving the players content" at all.

that has never been the point of the relic quest. the relic quest since i90 has been how to get existing players to repeat old content again. expecting new content from this is a big mistake.

[Wolfman88]

If on December 23rd during the live letter Yoshi-P and his team make a decision to nerf the relic grind would you all do it? Or is it that a grind is a grind no matter how long or short it is and will continue to be bashed? Does anyone know what is going on in the EU and Japan forums?

[AllegroSymphonic]

I've just spent the past 2 1/2 hours grinding and haven't gotten even one crystal. There is a serious issue if one has to straight do fates for this long and nothing is shown for it. And the fact I only have stage 3 to look forward to is an effing nightmare. This is terrible, And I dont understand why something Yoshi-P himself hates would stay in the game and be promoted and put in. This is a nightmare -_-

[Tachyon]

I just don't understand why there's so much "exchanging this item for that item and then exchanging another item for another item"...Idk. Was there no way to simplify this lol xD?

[Alcide]

[Granyala]

Wait a second, ontop of an absurd daily quest/Alexander/tome grind, I have to dump millions of gil into 16 moronic HQ crating items again?

*stuffs ilvl 170 relic into the chest under her bed*

Thanks for saving me the time. I'll stick to my trusty Eso weapon till they nerf the crap out of that quest.