you guys went overboard with this new relic

[Kallera]

Um, I'm at least making suggestions (several, in fact) and having a conversation. You are...well, I'm not exactly sure what this was supposed to be but I don't think it was constructive.

There is having faith in the dev team, and then there is "drinking the kool-aid".

I don't see the work involved in the relic being the solution to the problems with content so far. And now people are being asked, to run it all over again.

You want suggestions? Atma is not liked, and the amount of worked being asked is extreme. Much is made about players wasting time with each other, whether it be through rotations, inability to learn, or a general sense of progress.

This is an huge investment of time, resources, and patience.

I want to know that this new hell is worth what is at the end. Since the 2.0 relic, imo, regularly wasn't, and by intentional design from the devs, wasn't.