you guys went overboard with this new relic

[Stanelis]

Well, to be fair, it is a Massive-Multiplayer game. Some people have said they like the grind, others that they don't but it's understandable.

WoW made MMORPG popular by removing most of the hardcore grinds found in older games.

You say that a lot of player enjoy FFXIV, but for some reasons, I don't expect that popularity to last if SE keeps going with what they do since the beginning of heavensward.

[Riki_Namu]

WoW made MMORPG popular by removing most of the hardcore grinds found in older games.

You say that a lot of player enjoy FFXIV, but for some reasons, I don't expect that popularity to last if SE keeps going with what they do since the beginning of heavensward.

WoW lost millions for making it too casual. Many of them ended up here.

[whiskeybravo]

You say that a lot of player enjoy FFXIV, but for some reasons, I don't expect that popularity to last if SE keeps going with what they do since the beginning of heavensward.

I can only speak for myself, and having recently unsubbed but still running out the play time I've already payed for.. This was potentially something that could've kept me playing.. As others have said, it will eventually be nerfed like all previous relic steps, so I don't see any point in signing back up at least until the next set of raids come out.