Anima weapons - Last step

[SendohJin]

That's exactly right. But, apparently if you are not a specialist crafter, it's ok to be screwed by those who are.

you can't say Player A is a specialist crafter who is going to screw over everyone else. at best player A has 3 specialist crafts and he will need other people for the other 5 specialist recipes. at minimum you need 3 players who are co-dependent on each other, so no one person is screwing everyone.

and anyone can be a specialist crafter.

[NorthernLadMSP]

you can't say Player A is a specialist crafter who is going to screw over everyone else. at best player A has 3 specialist crafts and he will need other people for the other 5 specialist recipes. at minimum you need 3 players who are co-dependent on each other, so no one person is screwing everyone.

and anyone can be a specialist crafter.

No, but said specialist crafter is going to make millions on the items they can craft, which makes it easy for them to turn around and purchase the items for the crafts they don't specialize in. For anyone who is not a specialist in any craft, good luck on ever completing your relic.

[SinisterJointss]

Um... You obviously don't understand how huge of a gil sink it is but as long as you come out on top screw everyone else, right?

I can only have 3 specialists like everyone else. So... I have to pay too? Because Ic raft though, it will even out. Its not "screw everyone else" its, you dont want to craft so why should you reap the rewards from a max level crafter?

That's exactly right. But, apparently if you are not a specialist crafter, it's ok to be screwed by those who are.

but I can only have 3 specialists also, these items require items from ALL crafts. so everyone has to pay, not just non crafters. Dont be mad that you chose not to craft.

It's the amount needed per, when they did this with the last relic, it was just one each from each craft using desynth to get the item needed to craft.

It is just a bit odd for them to go from 1 HQ from each craft to now, 4 crafts have a base mat that are used in the other 4 crafts item but you need to HQ them oh and you also need 4 of each for a total of 16. The jump from 8 to 16 is just very out of place, had it just been 2 each it wouldn't be that bad in all honesty but making it 16 just seems overly excessive.

The ENTIRE last step is overly excessive. No clue what was going through SE's head... this is pretty ridiculous.

The main problem with the crafting part is that it requires different specialists all the way through (some the materials required to craft all 4 HQ final products also need specialists).

If it weren't for that, then sure: I'd be able to craft them all by myself (even if it took a long time).

As it stands, though...

The amount of items you need per is excessive, but as it stands, I like that it needs ALL specialists. It makes more sense that way and also evens out the playing field accross the specialist board.

No, but said specialist crafter is going to make millions on the items they can craft, which makes it easy for them to turn around and purchase the items for the crafts they don't specialize in. For anyone who is not a specialist in any craft, good luck on ever completing your relic.

And who's fault is that exactly? Oh, thats right. Yours.Dont be mad when you choose to not craft when things like this require crafting. You have had plenty of time to level at least ONE craft to 60.

[Legion88]

Haha, reads funny...

So everyone is angry about the alternative to the raid weapon? You all know, you would have to go through a heavy grindfest to get a relic.
And now the crafters get finally something what is worth of crafting and everyone is complaining about.

I don't need a relic for myself, cause i don't do endgame raiding and people who don't raid at all don't need a maxed out weapon/gear.

[Soulus]

This last step is... going to be rather interesting to see how long it takes before I start questioning my choice in doing so.

[Shurati]

If I understand that stuff right, there are 3 options:

1st, you are a raider. You will need a good weapon, but you also can get a weapon from a raid.

2nd, you want the Anima and have no problem with grinding for it.

3rd, you are a casual. You don't want to waste your time on the Anima weapon. Well, you don't have to, right? If you are a casual, a ilvl180 or ilvl190 weapon should be enough, if you ask me.

I'm not a hardcore raider, but I do raids with friends sometimes. Even that is possible with my ilvl 180.

Nobody forces you to get Anima.

[Demise]

Crafters have not had anything that effected battle classes at all in Heavensward since they took away being able to make accessories or meldable combat gear. This is actually a great way to reward the utter crapshow that is crafting and give crafters a reason for existing again. I know all the people who like to pretend crafting doesn't exist aren't happy, but for anyone who has suffered the red scrip grind and the blue scrip grind and the timed hour long windows for gathering mats, this is the first time we've had something to craft that wasn't just for other crafters or glamour.

Don't kid yourself, these items are going to be undercut like all hell because every specialized crafter is going to jump on the chance to make some gil. It's the gatherer's that are going to make serious dosh on this.

Basically, making crafting and gathering relevant again was the only thing about the last step of relic quest that SE did right.

[Zojha]

Yeah, no. That crafting thing is a dealbreaker for me. Not gonna bother 'til they're like 20k each.

I'd rather do another 800 runs of Alexander.

[AsteriaStarfall]

I'm not a hardcore raider, but I do raids with friends sometimes. Even that is possible with my ilvl 180.

Nobody forces you to get Anima.

The overall problem in the design as there is a HUGE difference between a fun somewhat grindy quest working towards an awesome goal, and an insane months upon months of grinding the same damn thing over and over and over again, only to see only the slightest margin of progress each day.

[Katlyna]

I'm one of the top geared, and wealthiest crafters on our server... and even I think this is completely idiotic. Both the crafting portion AND the absurd grind. I was expecting it to be grindy but this is just dumbtarded. SE has lost their marbles. And for everyone saying "remember the first weapons" You're being stupid... nearly EVERYONE complained the first weapons were too grindy as well.