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    MasamuneBranford's Avatar
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    Masamune Branford
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    So assuming you go the beast tribe quest path - each tribe (other than Vanu) only offers 3 quests a day that reward the currency. Thus - you must do quests 3 quests from all 4 tribes for 87 days. I believe some of those may involve Fates and such. ha...this sucks.
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    I'm not sure I understand where the final grind stage is. It that a quest after *Toughening UP* or is that part of it? I'm currently doing dungeons to satisfy the quest at the moment.
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    Adrian Ryder
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm not sure I understand where the final grind stage is. It that a quest after *Toughening UP* or is that part of it? I'm currently doing dungeons to satisfy the quest at the moment.
    Its the quest after Toughing Up, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45 View Post
    Its the quest after Toughing Up, yes.
    Thank you. I'm curious too if that if anyone knows if that is the final quest in this series or if there are more?
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    Mercutial Zenos
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    Did people already forget about the previous relic grind pre-nerf??? Or is this all the HW players getting cold water thrown on them? There's ALWAYS been a grind associated with the relic chain. 3% atma drop rates. 15% dungeon atma. Millions of gil for materia and crafted materials. Brayflox myth farming, anyone? Garuda HM bonus for 4(!) lights. Ironically, the easiest step (Animus books) went unnerfed and is now considered the most tedious step. This should tell you all you need to know.

    Why is this any different? Oh.. that's right. Because Law was raining from the heaven's when HW first started. Doman upgrades came prenerfed with hunts not nearly as grindy. etc etc etc
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    Last edited by Mercutial; 12-17-2015 at 12:35 AM.

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    Florence Leduc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    Did people already forget about the previous relic grind pre-nerf??? Or is this all the HW players getting cold water thrown on them? There's ALWAYS been a grind associated with the relic chain. 3% atma drop rates. 15% dungeon atma. Millions of gil for materia and crafted materials. Brayflox myth farming, anyone? Garuda HM bonus for 4(!) lights.

    Why is this any different? Oh.. that's right. Because Law was raining from the heaven's when HW first started. Dohman upgrades came prenerfed with hunts not nearly as grindy. etc etc etc
    the most big part was the animus part:
    9 book at 1500 tomes each
    100 monster each
    3 fate each
    3 dungeon each
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    the most big part was the animus part:
    9 book at 1500 tomes each
    100 monster each
    3 fate each
    3 dungeon each
    Possibly the "biggest" but certainly not the most time consuming. You can look toward atma grinding and alexandrite farming/makin' dat melding gil for that distinction. Again.. all at initial release.
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    Avalen Koma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    Did people already forget about the previous relic grind pre-nerf??? Or is this all the HW players getting cold water thrown on them? There's ALWAYS been a grind associated with the relic chain. 3% atma drop rates. 15% dungeon atma. Millions of gil for materia and crafted materials. Brayflox myth farming, anyone? Garuda HM bonus for 4(!) lights.
    I would take Garuda light farming at it's unnerfed light amount over this grind ANY day. That was easy compared to this. Even the shortest route to this which is about 640 Alexander runs (factoring law gained from it), will take a considerable amount of time more so when you consider the actual player base general skill on Non-JP servers. Quite a grind indeed but one in very poor taste. It's also quite literally every step from the Zodiac quests CEPT Animus books. Zero originality.

    Another thing that really bothers me is, you are going for a weapon, that literally has two stats again. While some of the combos might be different than current weapons, look at some of the ranged options a sec. MCN for example is abyssmal, why? Cause the Thordan weapon has the same weapon damage as the 210 relic but far superior stat combo. Invalidated weapon out the gate. For some other classes, there are better options elsewhere granted both still need to clear A4S at least.

    What is the aim of trying to give a weapon through pointless grind that gives you two secondaries again. I would argue they could have added a third to make it WORTH doing this. Make this grind WORTH going through. Nope nothing, some bad stat combos iirc MCN BLM SMN PLD, and that's about it.

    But the none raiders must be jumping for joy to some extent, you don't have to be able to clear A4S now at least. Just gotta sit and grind recycled content for months instead.

    Seriously, Players need to start asking themselves, what has Heavensward changed considerably about the formula they had in ARR. Few and far apart examples.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 12-18-2015 at 04:13 PM.

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    Azul Earendil
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    Hey are you serious, this excells everything before by far.

    Am I understand this right? It is for the Upgrade from 200 to 210 or what?

    And you need a sum of 80 of those items?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wicked-one View Post
    Hey are you serious, this excells everything before by far.
    People on reddit made sure the math was correct. I even double checked and corrected errors as they came in. Everything in the first post is so far accurate. After Toughing Up, you receive the Awakened weapon (i200) and this step is for upgrading it to 210.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Thank you. I'm curious too if that if anyone knows if that is the final quest in this series or if there are more?
    This is the last step for this series for now until the next relic update.
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