I'm not sure I understand where the final grind stage is. It that a quest after *Toughening UP* or is that part of it? I'm currently doing dungeons to satisfy the quest at the moment.




I'm not sure I understand where the final grind stage is. It that a quest after *Toughening UP* or is that part of it? I'm currently doing dungeons to satisfy the quest at the moment.

Did people already forget about the previous relic grind pre-nerf??? Or is this all the HW players getting cold water thrown on them? There's ALWAYS been a grind associated with the relic chain. 3% atma drop rates. 15% dungeon atma. Millions of gil for materia and crafted materials. Brayflox myth farming, anyone? Garuda HM bonus for 4(!) lights. Ironically, the easiest step (Animus books) went unnerfed and is now considered the most tedious step. This should tell you all you need to know.
Why is this any different? Oh.. that's right. Because Law was raining from the heaven's when HW first started. Doman upgrades came prenerfed with hunts not nearly as grindy. etc etc etc
Last edited by Mercutial; 12-17-2015 at 12:35 AM.


the most big part was the animus part:Did people already forget about the previous relic grind pre-nerf??? Or is this all the HW players getting cold water thrown on them? There's ALWAYS been a grind associated with the relic chain. 3% atma drop rates. 15% dungeon atma. Millions of gil for materia and crafted materials. Brayflox myth farming, anyone? Garuda HM bonus for 4(!) lights.
Why is this any different? Oh.. that's right. Because Law was raining from the heaven's when HW first started. Dohman upgrades came prenerfed with hunts not nearly as grindy. etc etc etc
9 book at 1500 tomes each
100 monster each
3 fate each
3 dungeon each
Hey are you serious, this excells everything before by far.
Am I understand this right? It is for the Upgrade from 200 to 210 or what?
And you need a sum of 80 of those items?
Never a mind was changed on an internet board, no matter how good your arguments are...


yes that it.... and after what it will be? because that only the first version of the 3.x...
People on reddit made sure the math was correct. I even double checked and corrected errors as they came in. Everything in the first post is so far accurate. After Toughing Up, you receive the Awakened weapon (i200) and this step is for upgrading it to 210.
This is the last step for this series for now until the next relic update.

Possibly the "biggest" but certainly not the most time consuming. You can look toward atma grinding and alexandrite farming/makin' dat melding gil for that distinction. Again.. all at initial release.
This doesn't seem bad or "grindy" at all. Well it could be a grind if people make it so. These requirements can be done on a daily basis by chipping away at it slowly and over time. It seems like this was designed to last a longer period of time versus what we've seen. For example clearing Thordan 10 or 15 times gets you your weapon or barding and you're done with it. This can be achieved in a couple of days or hell even one night if your group is dedicated enough. I think this relic weapon questing is fine since it is something many people do on a daily basis anyway. People do maps, roulettes, craft, beast tribe dailies, etc. consistently. Acquiring this relic will be done naturally.
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