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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    I'm fine with everything involved EXCEPT the crafting part.

    It's already bad enough that it requires HQ stuff, but those also being specialist-only (not to mention that said stuff can be crafted with OTHER specialist-only materials)?

    That's going too far...
    thats kinda funny considering the crafting stuff is the easy part. you're ok with an astronomical grind time but not ok with a small crafting req. logic....


    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    The part that infuriates me the most is the goddamn HQ crafted items again. So, this is just another means to net crafters even more gil, while making those of us who aren't specialist crafters suffer.
    so because you dont craft, its not fair? yup crafters make gil, suprising isnt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJointss View Post
    thats kinda funny considering the crafting stuff is the easy part. you're ok with an astronomical grind time but not ok with a small crafting req. logic....
    It's the amount needed per, when they did this with the last relic, it was just one each from each craft using desynth to get the item needed to craft.

    It is just a bit odd for them to go from 1 HQ from each craft to now, 4 crafts have a base mat that are used in the other 4 crafts item but you need to HQ them oh and you also need 4 of each for a total of 16. The jump from 8 to 16 is just very out of place, had it just been 2 each it wouldn't be that bad in all honesty but making it 16 just seems overly excessive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJointss View Post
    thats kinda funny considering the crafting stuff is the easy part. you're ok with an astronomical grind time but not ok with a small crafting req. logic....
    The main problem with the crafting part is that it requires different specialists all the way through (some the materials required to craft all 4 HQ final products also need specialists).

    If it weren't for that, then sure: I'd be able to craft them all by myself (even if it took a long time).

    As it stands, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJointss View Post
    thats kinda funny considering the crafting stuff is the easy part. you're ok with an astronomical grind time but not ok with a small crafting req. logic....




    so because you dont craft, its not fair? yup crafters make gil, suprising isnt it?
    Um... You obviously don't understand how huge of a gil sink it is but as long as you come out on top screw everyone else, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    Um... You obviously don't understand how huge of a gil sink it is but as long as you come out on top screw everyone else, right?
    I can only have 3 specialists like everyone else. So... I have to pay too? Because Ic raft though, it will even out. Its not "screw everyone else" its, you dont want to craft so why should you reap the rewards from a max level crafter?

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    That's exactly right. But, apparently if you are not a specialist crafter, it's ok to be screwed by those who are.
    but I can only have 3 specialists also, these items require items from ALL crafts. so everyone has to pay, not just non crafters. Dont be mad that you chose not to craft.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    It's the amount needed per, when they did this with the last relic, it was just one each from each craft using desynth to get the item needed to craft.

    It is just a bit odd for them to go from 1 HQ from each craft to now, 4 crafts have a base mat that are used in the other 4 crafts item but you need to HQ them oh and you also need 4 of each for a total of 16. The jump from 8 to 16 is just very out of place, had it just been 2 each it wouldn't be that bad in all honesty but making it 16 just seems overly excessive.
    The ENTIRE last step is overly excessive. No clue what was going through SE's head... this is pretty ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    The main problem with the crafting part is that it requires different specialists all the way through (some the materials required to craft all 4 HQ final products also need specialists).

    If it weren't for that, then sure: I'd be able to craft them all by myself (even if it took a long time).

    As it stands, though...
    The amount of items you need per is excessive, but as it stands, I like that it needs ALL specialists. It makes more sense that way and also evens out the playing field accross the specialist board.

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No, but said specialist crafter is going to make millions on the items they can craft, which makes it easy for them to turn around and purchase the items for the crafts they don't specialize in. For anyone who is not a specialist in any craft, good luck on ever completing your relic.
    And who's fault is that exactly? Oh, thats right. Yours.Dont be mad when you choose to not craft when things like this require crafting. You have had plenty of time to level at least ONE craft to 60.
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    Last edited by SinisterJointss; 12-17-2015 at 01:31 AM.

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    I'm laughing. People who thought relics would be an easy way to get a 210 weapon...lol.

    You either grind it out (do everything at the same time to cut down on time needed. Not rocket science.) or get good and raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I'm laughing. People who thought relics would be an easy way to get a 210 weapon...lol.

    You either grind it out (do everything at the same time to cut down on time needed. Not rocket science.) or get good and raid.
    Quite amusing coming from someone with mostly Eso and Diadem gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Quite amusing coming from someone with mostly Eso and Diadem gear.
    Funny, I've cleared a3s 8 weeks and should down a4s this week or next.
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    Serious bs i tell you, what the hell is up with the HQ crafted nonsense....
    Have they not learned anything from all the complaints from previous Relic?
    Also how accurate is this info? The having to do Alex so many times, etc.. does not seem right? Many players have stopped going there.


    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post

    You either grind it out (do everything at the same time to cut down on time needed. Not rocket science.) or get good and raid.
    You do realize many that raid have also done Relic right?
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