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    Please Reset Skills On Wipe In Raid

    Please like the post to support, devs see topics based on number of likes if i remember correctly. Also add a comment on your experience to keep us on the top page!

    Devs, I raided entire series of Binding Coil, beat Second Coil Savage, and raided up until AS3. I have decided to revise my original post because you have added in the new training mode in 3.2 to work on rotations and improve play based off content you want to tackle. Thank you for this.

    My original statement however remains the same. We need skills to reset when groups wipe in our raids. I lost my whole raid group, adventurers I had braved so many trials with before because we simply couldn't put up with so much extra time waiting around.

    Since I started the game in the beta, I have became a father and started school. However I still love this game, and I now understand how hard others can have it when they to love to play, love to raid, but just don't have a lot of time to do so. By allowing skills to reset on wipe, you not only alleviate stress created by placing blame on those causing the wipe and therefore the needless waiting, but you also let those who have less time to spend on the game we love have a better chance at spending some quality time raiding and enjoying content that we won't otherwise get to really enjoy.

    I never imagined I would have a topic with over 25000 views and over 400 likes, that's more then any other topic I have read on here. But I will not rest promoting this until we can achieve our goal of bringing a more quality experience to this game we all love. Please hear us devs. Thanks,
    Makado Kitase and all the other adventures in Eorzea

    My abuse solution : when you leave a raid, put abilities on cooldown.
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    Last edited by Makado; 02-13-2016 at 03:02 AM.

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    that moment when you pop all your DPS cooldowns to try to beat a dps clock, Fail and start next fight with everything still down... The struggle is real, I support the OP.
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    Or just in general. If you're alone and you die, having your abilities reset would be excellent.

    Last night I had the unfortunate fate of using a Cordial before attempting to teleport to the next area where a collectible node would spawn, only to find myself accosted by an Angry Bird. This bird killed me, and when I respawned, my GP was at 0, I couldn't use a Cordial, and by the time my GP had come back up to where I'd be able to gather anything worth a damn, the collectible node had unspawned.

    It is also unnecessarily punishing for group content, as it forces groups to wait for certain cooldowns before beginning the attempt again (which can be up to 7 minutes - on a 90- or 120-minute attempt, that's horrid).
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    Why this isn't in the game already is surprising, it's a simple quality of life issue that anyone who raids casually or hardcore would appreciate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuma View Post
    Why this isn't in the game already is surprising, it's a simple quality of life issue that anyone who raids casually or hardcore would appreciate.
    Small dev team with bigger fish to fry. I'd be willing to bet it's on their radar, just something they don't have the resources to focus on yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Small dev team with bigger fish to fry. I'd be willing to bet it's on their radar, just something they don't have the resources to focus on yet.
    A lot smaller fish have been handled and depending on how much you raid or take on challenging content it turns out to be not so small of a fish. The small dev team argument is a dead horse topic at this point and they should be absorbing some bodies from FFXI since they're no longer creating content for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    gathering stuff
    I have to respectfully disagree with this being the same in the open world. Items have their timers for a reason (think if an item had a much longer timer and you could die to deliberately reset that). And the reason why instanced content is different is because when you wipe the entire instance resets, but your cool downs don't. What should happen is the game puts you in the exact state as before the fight started, instead we have long cool down battle scars from the last duel.
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    Signed.

    Was an issue for my team in Coil and continues to be one today in Alex Savage. I will say it does give us time to collect our thoughts and analyze what we did wrong while we wait. However there are those times you know the fight in its entirety and you just want to gogogo.
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    Last edited by PandaPause; 12-16-2015 at 12:28 AM. Reason: spelling

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    I dont understand why you guys would be waiting for cooldowns when you have not cleared a3s yet. My policy on progression is just keep going without cooldowns because there is no sense in waiting for it. Hell if my PB is down i'll still go. What? on A3S we lose 1% worth of hp on boss compared to waiting on CD's. It dosent make or break it. Now when we reach enrage, then that is the time we wait for CD's. Because at that point everyone has seen the mechanics, little details on how to do those mechanics etc. and now we are optimizing the DPS.
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    Take the most recent example. Thordan Ex, trying to learn it or someone makes a silly mistake. Say we get up to Holy Bladedance or bit after then wipe. After wipe is sorry guys ive got 5mins for Hallowed Ground. Yes we need this, can not understand why we dont already. Learning Alex the 3 hours we have is probably 40% of the time waiting for CDs. Would also like to see potions reset as well. Wastes so much time in our limited time to practice fights.

    I wont accept you dont need tank CDs either. Id say everything I can think of the requires tank CDs is a wipe if you dont have them. Sure DPS without, your learning doesnt matter at that point. But you can get through tank busters without them. So may as well make them all reset on wipe.
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    Last edited by Daenarys_Targaryen; 12-16-2015 at 02:15 AM.

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