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    BARDS_ARROW's Avatar
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    Talia Snow
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    Zodiark
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    Bard Lv 70
    Signed! I’ve been playing for close to a year now and I’m actually really surprised that this hasn’t been implemented already.
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    Xanikk999's Avatar
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    Kalorea Redtail
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    This is a very reasonable suggestion. Not saying that just because WoW has it we should but.. they added this in WoW a couple xpacs ago because the developers realized it was just a nuisance to make players have to wait on cooldowns before pulls.
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    Arielle Chaunollet
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    This needs to be a thing, saves so much time!
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    Cai Mathis
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I dont understand why you guys would be waiting for cooldowns when you have not cleared a3s yet. My policy on progression is just keep going without cooldowns because there is no sense in waiting for it. Hell if my PB is down i'll still go. What? on A3S we lose 1% worth of hp on boss compared to waiting on CD's. It dosent make or break it. Now when we reach enrage, then that is the time we wait for CD's. Because at that point everyone has seen the mechanics, little details on how to do those mechanics etc. and now we are optimizing the DPS.
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cococai View Post
    I dont understand why you guys would be waiting for cooldowns when you have not cleared a3s yet. My policy on progression is just keep going without cooldowns because there is no sense in waiting for it. Hell if my PB is down i'll still go. What? on A3S we lose 1% worth of hp on boss compared to waiting on CD's. It dosent make or break it. Now when we reach enrage, then that is the time we wait for CD's. Because at that point everyone has seen the mechanics, little details on how to do those mechanics etc. and now we are optimizing the DPS.
    When you're reaching the final phase in AS3, it's good to know where your dps stands, which includes getting Living Liquid to a respectable % before adds. Also strategies like pots on adds, Living Dead for the first hand swipe, Holmgang the knockback, or simple things Convert on BLM will make you hold before a pull. I agree that learning the first few phases of a fight doesn't require cooldowns, but AS3 is a 14 minute fight, everything counts. Why SE has not implemented a CD reset is beyond me.
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    Daenaerys Targaryen
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Take the most recent example. Thordan Ex, trying to learn it or someone makes a silly mistake. Say we get up to Holy Bladedance or bit after then wipe. After wipe is sorry guys ive got 5mins for Hallowed Ground. Yes we need this, can not understand why we dont already. Learning Alex the 3 hours we have is probably 40% of the time waiting for CDs. Would also like to see potions reset as well. Wastes so much time in our limited time to practice fights.

    I wont accept you dont need tank CDs either. Id say everything I can think of the requires tank CDs is a wipe if you dont have them. Sure DPS without, your learning doesnt matter at that point. But you can get through tank busters without them. So may as well make them all reset on wipe.
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    Last edited by Daenarys_Targaryen; 12-16-2015 at 02:15 AM.

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    MajinkenSouga's Avatar
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    Laguna Noctis
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    Exodus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Please let cooldowns reset upon wipe in a raid instance! This would be a huge quality of life change that me and plenty of other people would appreciate.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daenarys_Targaryen View Post
    Say we get up to Holy Bladedance or bit after then wipe. After wipe is sorry guys ive got 5mins for Hallowed Ground. Yes we need this, can not understand why we dont already.
    I use sentinel and rampart for SwO bladedance and foresight and bulwark for ShO one, there's no need for HG there (not relevant, just thought I'd give you something to try out).

    My reason for wanting this is that tight DPS checks mean that DPS must have all of their skills from the beginning (especially if you are still learning and deaths happen), this is efficient when trying to clear the fight, and the system should aid that, rather than detract from it.
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    Daenaerys Targaryen
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I use sentinel and rampart for SwO bladedance and foresight and bulwark for ShO one, there's no need for HG there (not relevant, just thought I'd give you something to try out).

    My reason for wanting this is that tight DPS checks mean that DPS must have all of their skills from the beginning (especially if you are still learning and deaths happen), this is efficient when trying to clear the fight, and the system should aid that, rather than detract from it.
    I completely agree. I use different stuff for Thordan. Was just the first exaple I could think of were we wait for HG cause it has such a long CD.

    As well in AS1 we lost a lot of time waiting for DPS CDs cause you need them. Everytime is we need them so we can get further and get better at rotations so we can clear. But as said probably 440 of our 3 hour raid is standing around waiting for CDs.
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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I use sentinel and rampart for SwO bladedance and foresight and bulwark for ShO one, there's no need for HG there (not relevant, just thought I'd give you something to try out).

    My reason for wanting this is that tight DPS checks mean that DPS must have all of their skills from the beginning (especially if you are still learning and deaths happen), this is efficient when trying to clear the fight, and the system should aid that, rather than detract from it.
    Those are just work arounds. Not solutions. The fact that you can get by without waiting doesn't make the lack of reset any less frustrating. It also assumes your group is adaptable enough to change up CD usage on the fly every run. A lot of groups aren't and would rather just wait the extra 2 min on every run. There's no objective reason to keep this in trial style instances at the least. Just keep it out oft global death in the open field or dungeons (sorry your cordial got wasted). But instanced content where you walk into a zone and there's a circle and a boss that resets entirely upon death and there's no other trash or bosses to abuse death resets on (think HG on every trash pull in a dungeon. That'd be dumb. Trials only).

    The only reason not to add this to trials is as some form of punishment to prove you're hardcore enough tp take it and not a filthy casual. Sitting on your bum for a few minutes doesn't make you hardcore. This is QOL plain and simple and yet it's somehow framed as a casual handout by post 2? Really? Some people are truly silly.
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    Last edited by Izsha; 12-16-2015 at 02:48 AM.

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