Complaints that I don't see in game

[Amiaze]

I've seen the first a few times...a BLM that would literally cast nothing but Blizzard spells over and over again. I've also seen them goo up and run out of MP completely, then have to wait for it to recharge. I've never been a BLM, so I'm not sure what happened there, but I know that it was not supposed to.

As for the second, no. I think I've seen someone try to boot another member once or twice without any stated reason, but the rejection was typically the end of it. I've seen a lot of Abandon Duty spam, however, even after most members would outright state their desire to continue the raid. There would always be someone who initiated the vote again and again and again and again.

[Erendis]

2. "People abuse vote kick." Don't see this happening either. I really have to wonder what are *YOU* doing to be kicked to make this such an issue.

I have never been kicked myself, but I've seen someone for no reason try to kick BLM from WoD till it passed The other time in WoD someone tried to kick BLM from our FC (also for no reason at all), but that time there was more of us from FC and it did not pass.

[Greedalox]

People make exaggerated claims to add "evidence" to their ideas. You see it on a lot of forum arguments.

[bounddreamer]

I've definitely witnessed harassment. I've also seen abusive language and initiated a vote kick for it, which was carried through. Seen abusive language that another player said he'd report but the point was moot because the instance was over.

I've only seen constructive discussions on parsing, in groups whose intention was to pass an objective such as the new EX primals or Alex Savage. My own group has dropped players from our team for low numbers but we didn't cite parsing as the cause.

When you look at the list of reasons you can dismiss a player it's actually very narrow. Afk, offline, harassment, or cheating. You can't objectively kick people for not playing how you want to play. But people do that all the time. I'd call that abuse of the vote kick.

[AnaviAnael]

I've seen ice mages before, mostly in lower level dungeons. Some are willing to learn, some want to role play, others go, "I play how I want!"

*had a healer refuse to heal
*had a tank refuse to tank

These are the two I most commonly see. I mostly play SMN now, and it's ridiculous how many tanks either cannot or will not hold hate on more than one mob..

[Kerii]

I don't even get healers who refuse to heal. I get AFK healers who go on about how they "had" to answer that text in the middle of a boss fight. I had three ice mages in my FC. That wasn't a fun week.

[Kaurie]

I've seen ice mages before, mostly in lower level dungeons. Some are willing to learn, some want to role play, others go, "I play how I want!"



These are the two I most commonly see. I mostly play SMN now, and it's ridiculous how many tanks either cannot or will not hold hate on more than one mob..

I've seen bad tanks, but not tanks refuse to tank. I mean like "Do this, or I won't tank. Good luck." or "I don't want to tank, I just want to play a guy with a big axe!"

[KazuneHypnotik]

Trust me, some black mages actually worry about their MP so much that they prefer cast ice spells because they see their bar always filled.
If you try to give some advices to someone you can get kicked, because you know helping someone is being elitist for some people.

This, I just ran into a ice Mage in DD last week. I didn't say anything because it wouldn't have mattered anyways. It's usually pointless to give advice to people anymore because they think you're criticizing them or trying to tell them how to play their class. Which most people don't like. Thus getting the vote kick. I been in a couple DFs where people would kick because a tank would aggro single mobs, healer can't keep up on heals or dps, low dps all together. The most ridiculous vote kick I have ever seen was a tank asking this healer "which way is north?" The healer answered then the tank said CORRECT then booted the healer...guess who the healer was :/ so yeah I seen this a lot

[Franchesca]

Ice mages are a rare bunch. I was unfortunate to encounter one. I gotten scolded by her and her friends for giving some friendly advice. I left when it gotten hostile.

As for the vote abuse, I was victim of being kicked from WoD one time.. I never said or did anything to warrant it.

[KuraiKiserogeru]

*witnessed harassment
*been kicked from a dungeon myself
*seen someone rage over low DPS numbers when parsing (and openly discussing parsing)
*had a DRK who pretended to be a DPS
*had a healer refuse to heal
*had a tank refuse to tank

Seen it all and.

*had people that rage at noobs who are watching cut scenes
*had noobs that rage you're leaving them behind that are watching said cut scenes
*had a MNK that can't keep greased lightning up or use correct positionals
*had a BRD that refused to use wanderers minuet
*had a WAR that refused to use definace and died to everything, lost hate to everything, and caused everyone to die
*had stupid DPS that stand in AOE's and refuse to do mechanics, dying and then blaming the healer
*ice mages
*had DRGs that have no idea what heavy thrust is
*had an i200 SMN that never used bane in Saint Mocianne
*had a WHM that spammed medica 2
*had 2 players in a dungeon that would rather stand and look at the details of a map and full on conversation about it than DPS
*dead DPS wanting raises when they can bypass weakness and use the shortcut back
*tanks that walk through mobs thinking thats it for hate
*tanks tanking mobs facing the party
*tanks that refuse to use cooldowns on trash
*NINs using doton on single target mobs
*people that afk, either irl or typing in a LS/FC every 2 seconds
*level 50's with no soul crystals
*DRKS with no provoke in Alex
*WARs that let V wrath stacks fall off
*WARs that won't do tanking mechanics, because Fell Cleave, and then die because they don't know what Vengance/Thrill/Holmg is
*DRKs that think Blood Price is their only ability they should use

Probably a lot more.