Complaints that I don't see in game

[Gamer3427]

I'm a MCH main, but I heal dungeons a decent bit simply because it takes no real effort, (barring horrible groups). When I was leveling my SCH, I ran into a MCH in the Aery that made me understand why we MCHs tend to have a bad reputation. This was the MCH equivalent of a Ruin Only SMN or an Ice Mage. They use their turret only twice the entire run, at the first boss when I mentioned to remember it, and at the very end of the final boss fight right before it died. While I wasn't always watching their rotation, so I don't know for certain if they used other skills, I also know for a fact that they didn't use their DoT, (AKA MCH's most powerful single skill aside from a full rotation Wildfire), even once the entire run. Just because these types of players are rare, doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means you were lucky enough to not get paired with them....

[Vivi_Bushido]

Trust me, some black mages actually worry about their MP so much that they prefer cast ice spells because they see their bar always filled.
If you try to give some advices to someone you can get kicked, because you know helping someone is being elitist for some people.

This ^

Trying to be helpful seems to make you an elitist.

[Kazumac]

In game it is way less than it would appear on the forums. But it does happen and I have kicked people who are just generally being an ass to other team members. It's actually very rare and I find the community pretty darned good in game.

Dpsers... Well I mean if you want to get nitpicky there's a lot of room for improvement (but that's there in all roles) but does it really affect the success of the run? Not in most content. Never run into an "Ice Mage" yet but I'm looking forward to it.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

I ran into an ice Mage this afternoon in Totorak lmao. I never saw him use Fire once. He kept saying my Yoshimitsu Atma was cool and wondered how he could get one. I told him it was a Relic Weapon and he didn't know what one was.

[AnaviAnael]

I've seen bad tanks, but not tanks refuse to tank. I mean like "Do this, or I won't tank. Good luck." or "I don't want to tank, I just want to play a guy with a big axe!"

I gotcha. Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant.

I've seen that happen one time in a Labyrinth of the Ancients run. This guy went in on marauder and refused to tank because, "you don't need six tanks in this dungeon." The only reason why I really remember it was because I felt bad for his co-tank, who was a fresh 50 and had no hope of holding hate against a group of DPS that were around i110. They did their best though.

[Kaiser-Ace]

The few times I've been kick have ways been "Dodged a Bullet" situations.

Never seen an Ice Mage before but I ran with a few parser users at one time. They were decent people though so I had no issues with them.

My biggest issue is the "Have Clear/No Noobs!!! <angry nerd face>" crowd that seems to expect 100% perfection on day to week old content. Especially the ones who suck worse than people WITH the time bonus.

[Twilite]

People make exaggerated claims to add "evidence" to their ideas. You see it on a lot of forum arguments.

That might be true for some, but I tend to think I and others in this thread are just lucky.

[UnstablePersonality]

I'm a MCH main, but I heal dungeons a decent bit simply because it takes no real effort, (barring horrible groups). When I was leveling my SCH, I ran into a MCH in the Aery that made me understand why we MCHs tend to have a bad reputation. This was the MCH equivalent of a Ruin Only SMN or an Ice Mage. They use their turret only twice the entire run, at the first boss when I mentioned to remember it, and at the very end of the final boss fight right before it died. While I wasn't always watching their rotation, so I don't know for certain if they used other skills, I also know for a fact that they didn't use their DoT, (AKA MCH's most powerful single skill aside from a full rotation Wildfire), even once the entire run. Just because these types of players are rare, doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means you were lucky enough to not get paired with them....

As a Machinist main who knows how all their skills work and how to put out quite a bit of damage...this saddens me.

[Reinha]

I ran into an ice Mage this afternoon in Totorak lmao. I never saw him use Fire once. He kept saying my Yoshimitsu Atma was cool and wondered how he could get one. I told him it was a Relic Weapon and he didn't know what one was.

Not gonna lie. That's really adorable lol. Curious noobs are the best.

[DisFlavored]

2. "People abuse vote kick." Don't see this happening either. I really have to wonder what are *YOU* doing to be kicked to make this such an issue.

Well that just comes off as rude :/

I've seen people be kicked for no good reason, I've been kicked for no reason, and neither I or the other people kicked at fault.
I've encountered healers who refuse to heal and tanks who refuse to do their job. There are plenty of people who should be kicked but aren't. Most of us just suffer through it because they're only 20-30 minutes of our lives.

If you really want to see what some of us experience, you should direct your attention to the always on first page thread: Tales from Duty Finder
As always, just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.