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  1. #141
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    This though came to mind a while ago and figured I'd throw it here. it relates to both DOL/DOH scrips atm and I feel it could liven the system.

    As it stands now it's rather stagnant as in it's a system purely done through one window, you give items to x person and then you get reward to turn in for stuff. They could better integrate the system if you could unlock clients by doing the DOH/DOL questline which would give purpose to complete those.

    Let's say you hit 60 and your options for turn ins are based on only having Rowena as a client and her "speciality" is all around meaning she will ask for something from everything but she doesn't give any perks/boost for turning in with her, aka she's cheap.

    Then say you complete Carpenter quest, you unlock that person as a client and he ask for Carpenter, Blacksmith, Leathercraft and Botanist items. Each day he'll ask for 2/4 and by turning in items to him you increase your reputation with that NPC and said client will offer you more as well as ask for higher quality collectible items.

    In the end instead of just having Rowena as a person to turn in to you would have 13 people in total by going through all the DOL/DOH quest each asking for 4 different types of DOL/DOH that would change daily. It would liven up the system more, allow more options for turn ins and it could even reward players for focusing on certain clients since they would offer larger rewards for turn ins.

    Again just a thought that popped in my head, but when I think about the collectible system it really lacks in how "alive" it feels, it doesn't really feel like you are being useful to the NPCs around you just Rowena herself and it takes away from what the collectible system could be, which should be about bringing to life the NPCs around you and offering your help to them by giving them the items/gathered items they need.
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  2. #142
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 60
    I am okay with the system they have created, it makes everything more interesting and keeps you interested coming into the new patch instead of keeping it old and boring so I applaud them trying to keep us interested.
    Right now I just use the HQ iLv150 overmelded set so I can use it for all crafts and the stats are good enough to craft anything. I am just buying the Red Scrip tools for each craft and then stats are even better so no issues there.
    The issues I have is that trying to cap Crafter Scrips each week it is not equitable. One job will give 26 and then the other will give 39. That pisses me off and I don't like that system. I know they are trying to keep markets moving and letting everyone benefit but this is ridiculous because some of the items are hard to farm without preparation.
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

  3. #143
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    I finally got around to messing around with gather red scrips and they really are horrible, I have no life and pretty much live on the game and don't want to do that. Hit a node that takes maybe couple minutes at most and then wait around 25 minutes for the next node to spawn assuming you don't screw up your rotation and you just starting the process also being I don't have any folklore books I am limited to one node that only spawns every 30 minutes.
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  4. #144
    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    I am okay with the system they have created, it makes everything more interesting and keeps you interested coming into the new patch instead of keeping it old and boring so I applaud them trying to keep us interested.
    Right now I just use the HQ iLv150 overmelded set so I can use it for all crafts and the stats are good enough to craft anything. I am just buying the Red Scrip tools for each craft and then stats are even better so no issues there.
    The issues I have is that trying to cap Crafter Scrips each week it is not equitable. One job will give 26 and then the other will give 39. That pisses me off and I don't like that system. I know they are trying to keep markets moving and letting everyone benefit but this is ridiculous because some of the items are hard to farm without preparation.
    Are people talking about DoH scrips in the DoL section?
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  5. #145
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    Moriel Odindottir
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 80
    Raising the weekly limit to 900 would go a long way to help matters, in my opinion.
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  6. #146
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by uberrod9 View Post
    Raising the weekly limit to 900 would go a long way to help matters, in my opinion.
    Not if you are trying to make it more casual-friendly, and less dominated by people with who play the game 40+ hours a week.

    Under the current system, first you have 2-3+ hours it takes to gather the red scrip turn-ins. This lets you buy 45 Favors. Each favor takes at least 7 minutes to run, including very minimal estimates for travel and setup time. That's another 5.5 hours. So currently. it takes at least 8 hours of game play totally dedicated to red scrip gathering to hit the cap and use the scrip you earned. We don't need to double that.

    Disclaimer: I have averaged over 35 hours a week playing FFXIV since I started playing.
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  7. #147
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Are people talking about DoH scrips in the DoL section?
    To be fair, the title doesn't mention it, and the post above her was talking about both types at least.
    Also, if you're having issues with rotations, you might want to check out this awesome guide by Looney Bob
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  8. #148
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    Mikoto Highcross
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    That's easy to say if you don't have kids and/or a full time job.
    ^ this. So much. I struggle each week trying to level, get my gathering classes up AND cap esos each week for raid time. I have about 2 hours a night save for my days off and I don't have a kid. I can't imagine how hard it is to cap. I mean even with the cap.. we should be able to cap and be done for the week. We'd still get on. SE just too focused on money.
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  9. 12-09-2015 02:08 PM

  10. #149
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    Jade Nephrite
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 60
    ^^^ Red Crafter Scripts are a easy.... well if you're an Omnicrafter. Just wait for one of the easier items to craft becomes *'ed ( Alchemy / Carpenter ) and make 10 of them and that's your 450 for the week. The materials for non-Adamantite gear can be gathered by your retainers and you can make 6 Adamantite Nuggets per hour. If you are buying the materials, start leveling your Gathering classes.
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  11. 12-10-2015 04:21 AM

  12. #150
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    Jade Nephrite
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DE-Roxas View Post
    The Mining Items arent really the problem. Adamantite is the easiest to get. (if you are miner like me) But for most crafting items "you have to" buy it unless you have all gatherers up on 60 instead of just one.
    Since the Question was: Casualfriendly? I dont think so :/
    That's true, but they did add a 5 Red Script Turn in for each of the Gathering Classes. I really do have to begin gearing up my Fisher...
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