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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
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    Wow you twist what he said into a way for you to be the white knight of the thread pretty well.

    You and I both know that he implied that any thing is better that the way it is now. That is a very easy way of putting "this game sucks and any other game is better."

    I'm simply not going to have an argument over the semantics of how text can be read. We read it and interpreted differently. I guess I'm not allowed to do that either for fear that I may step on some toes I suppose. So by your reasoning we need to just make sure that we read and interpret all posts the way you would.

    Again, I'm gonna be done with this argument. Ethics and interpretation of text can be saved for the classroom.
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    XIV isn't XI-2. Get that mentality out of here and stop asking for things from that game to be added here. There's a reason it's dying, and we don't need that cancer spread over here ><

    News flash: XI is still around! Abyssea still exists in that game, maybe you should go play it over there.
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    And i quit when Abby came out and so did a lot of people - dont see it happening sorry >.<
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    Wow you twist what he said into a way for you to be the white knight of the thread pretty well.

    You and I both know that he implied that any thing is better that the way it is now. That is a very easy way of putting "this game sucks and any other game is better."

    I'm simply not going to have an argument over the semantics of how text can be read. We read it and interpreted differently. I guess I'm not allowed to do that either for fear that I may step on some toes I suppose. So by your reasoning we need to just make sure that we read and interpret all posts the way you would.

    Again, I'm gonna be done with this argument. Ethics and interpretation of text can be saved for the classroom.
    :O First troll, and now white knight? Wow, can you tell me about memes, casuals, and elitists too? Anyway, that still doesn't make him a troll. Just a disappointed player since he's been a member since 2011, and I've seen him posting since beta (signature is easy to spot/remember). And no, I'm not here to "white knight", just like to call out people who say "troll" or "toxic" when what they actually mean is "I don't like it that you disagree with me" (in this case the state of the game). Actually scratch that last part, I am doing the same now putting words in your mouth literally .

    Quote Originally Posted by Hezkezl View Post
    XIV isn't XI-2. Get that mentality out of here and stop asking for things from that game to be added here. There's a reason it's dying, and we don't need that cancer spread over here ><

    News flash: XI is still around! Abyssea still exists in that game, maybe you should go play it over there.
    Funny enough this is the only instance where that works lol. Most other times it's people wanting pre-Abyssea FFXI.
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    Last edited by Magis; 12-08-2015 at 05:44 AM.

  6. #66
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    Funny enough this is the only instance where that works lol. Most other times it's people wanting pre-Abyssea FFXI.
    They'll have access to that on the cell phone re-release.
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Abyssea was the worst thing to happen to FFXI.. why would you want this..
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    And actually to half of the requests being made on this forums we could reply "Go back to WoW." So why isn't that happening? Hm?
    Cut it off already, lots of good stuff have been introduced in lots of games. FFXIV can take from them too. I am not talking about copying, but about taking inspiration.
    THANK YOU.

    God forbid someone posts about taking content from the last MMO created by Square Enix in the Final Fantasy series and re-working it to fit FFXIV's structure, due to the fact that 99.9% of the time the flame trolls appear out of the woodwork bearing pitchforks. Many players find this game to currently be incredibly boring so perhaps taking some ideas from the various battle systems and instances in XI wouldn't be such a bad thing. Mention something from WoW and the reactions are noticeably far less incendiary.

    Also, someone please enlighten me as to how "Diadem is just like Abyssea", since that seems to be the sexy new buzzphrase on the forums.

    In Abyssea, you can level from 30-99 through Fell Cleave parties and similar methods. You can't enter Diadem unless you're level 60 and you don't gain experience (since the cap is currently 60).

    In Abyssea, nm's, for the most part, are popped via a key item or a tradeable item in your inventory. In Diadem, they are popped from Fresh Tracks that appear after a random number of mobs are killed.

    In Abyssea, the chances of rare drops from nm's are greatly increased after the nm is proc'd from various methods. In Diadem, a gold chest will appear once the nm is killed in hard mode, or randomly a silver chest will appear in the easier modes. No procs needed, just take the nm's hp to zero.

    In Abyssea, after completing specific conditions, you can obtain up to three atmas which give your character a number of extremely powerful buffs while in the zone. In Diadem, there is currently no such system.

    Basically, the only theme that might be shared between the two is the relatively easy way that so-called gamebreaking gear is obtained in comparison to former content in both games; however, the methods for obtaining this gear (as noted above) between the two games varies greatly.
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    Last edited by Theplatter; 12-08-2015 at 09:37 AM.

  9. #69
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    Thank you Theplatter for saying what I was trying to say with my post, but way better.

    For anyone wondering what it was like I can't really explain it here because it would take a lot of wording. It's best if you just read from the wiki or see what Theplatter said about it above me.

    http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Abyssea
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  10. #70
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    What the game needs is more content, that doesn't make older content irrelevant.

    Like how Mythic weapons were good to have, but Relic weapons were also good to have, And when Mog stuff came out in XI it still didn't make them bad to have since you could upgrade.

    I wonder how many people are doing what's been done since 1.0, logging in on a certain day of the week and after that wait for reset? I know I am still doing that, and I am tired of it.
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