How would you feel about end-game gear only being useful for 3 months?

[Naylia]

Making thins "easier" to obtain is also a vague term...

Access to Darkhold is being reduced from a mandatory party of 8 to a party of 5 to 8 with no change in difficulty/quantity of mobs. -> This will make Solid Scale Mail "easier" to obtain for me. It'll be much easier to find a group of 5-6 to grind the first half of the dungeon with, then having to get and maintain a Full Party for multiple runs.

[Jennestia]

The fact that other MMOs with short gear cycles have very healthy populations disagrees with you.

"Oh but other MMOs have an Auction House and they have healthy populations, which means an Auction House is why people play the MMOs!"

That logic is such a fallacious one.

[weeble]

Yes, 1 year is around the corner

You are honestly here to troll. Either that, or you're so intellectually incapable of understanding the development process you are making extreme accusations against FFXIV's team versus another MMO's team with probably twice the developers and budget. Common sense would tell you why you think FFXIV is developing slow. So, I don't know why people seem to be entitled to complain about this when they understand the circumstance. Unless, of course, you don't... and I do mean you specifically.

maybe he isn't pointing out there disposition ...it is irrelevant. everything he says makes sense to anyone here not in the thread for donations to se for ffxiv to do better. lol. it don't matter how much work they have done, or how little they have money wise to do it. they launched way to early this is there fault and no matter what now there content will never meet standards cause they will be always catching up. and when numbers don't rise cause of this it will be even worse.

million dollar companies understaffed for a game they launched way early? no one see's a problem with this ...every mmo coming out thinks it can just release and fix as it goes. a troll for thinking this is a joke? it is a joke. it's there circumstance ...not everyone elses twiddling there thumbs now waiting, and even wondering if we getting 3month gear die outs or if we getting pvp or if we even gonna enjoy the minimum of the grind from rank 1 to max. don't say they will eventually, the reality is ..and bigger question... does se even think the game will be alive a year after subs to give us these things or are they just trying to get as many different people to play at launch then decide.

to stay on topic though 3month gear death will be worse for this game then every help it. wow is like that from what i understand i not play it but they had millions of subs prior to it going easy game mode no? and number wise it probably turn off just as many as abysea turned off in ffxi even if they stay or not waiting for another? game? that ain't the same.

[User201109011315]

Where do you get that they are fixating on a "gear grind", just because they are admitting that they plan to constantly add better gear? So every MMO that rewards people doing new content with gear upgrades is a "gear grind"?

Well if they aren't intending to focus on gear grind, great, but you've seen how long it takes them to release content. So if they state their intention is to make the game revolve around gear/raids as a motivational factor, then it will be their focus to the exclusion of everything else.

Like always you are speculating completely on your own, and you were so wrong last time why should anyone believe you versus the actual plans/statements from the developers? They have plans for a lot more character progression/endgame than an 8 man instance gear grind. But no, from this one comment made by Yoshi about how theoretically upgrades and difficulty should operate on small group instances you Gifthorse have uncovered the secret real plan behind Yoshi's direction for FFXIV.

Calm your farm.

Do you ever get off my case and just talk about the topic at hand? Who cares if it's speculation? I'm either right or I'm wrong. And, let's be frank here, I'm probably right.

Anyway, what's more important is whether or not you agree.

Hypothetically, if fixating on gear/raids means that other aspects of the game are neglected, then is this good?

Hypothetically, if they intend to make old content obsolete (therefore playing catch-up with themselves forever), is this good design?

[Renshi]

Whatever, people run Dungeons because of Challenge, Lore and Drops. Especially drops. It's not a Gear Grind, it's a simple Dungeon/Raid run for good drops and one thing that you guys are leaving behind, Fun.

Also, don't get me wrong, but Nobody here is right until we see the end results, so assuming that we are right about things we don't even know what we're talking about is just retarded.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

million dollar companies understaffed for a game they launched way early? no one see's a problem with this ...every mmo coming out thinks it can just release and fix as it goes. a troll for thinking this is a joke? it is a joke. it's there circumstance ...not everyone elses twiddling there thumbs now waiting, and even wondering if we getting 3month gear die outs or if we getting pvp or if we even gonna enjoy the minimum of the grind from rank 1 to max. don't say they will eventually, the reality is ..and bigger question... does se even think the game will be alive a year after subs to give us these things or are they just trying to get as many different people to play at launch then decide.

It doesn't matter. If you understand the circumstance and you still continue to sign into this game and demand it's entirely free services while at the same time unreasonably picking it apart. That is destructive behavior on the clients part. You have several instances where you can refuse service without any financial burden.

You are not entitled to anything. You were paid back in free online pay for a year. When you sign on and you don't like the state the game has developed into. Then let it go and move on. The way that some of you complain about a game that has been given to you for free for a year (AND COUNTING) you'd think, "Man, these people have got to be masochists".

Is the pain that FFXIV gives you that exquisite? Or do you just have nothing better to do? The argument of what circumstances happened upon the launch of the game is a tired argument. It's been a year now, let it go. However, it does paint a picture in how the development process will pace itself. Knowing this and deciding to continue your dysfunctional relationship with FFXIV is your problem. It's not the game's problem. It's their job to fix it in the best way they can.

When you go into a restaurant and let's say you find a hair in your soup. The manager finds it disgusting and tells you that you can have ANYTHING and EVERYTHING free of charge on the menu and so in your compensation you order five plates of Fillet Mignon. In the time that it takes to warm soup do you snap your f&%$ing fingers and say, "Hey waiter where the hell are my plates of Fillet Mingnon?" No. This is what we call unreasonable senses of entitlement when all the business is trying to do is make you happy. Nothing is ever good enough and nothing will ever be.

[weeble]

if you walk into a bank and rob it... u get arrested pretty quick these days. aka not worth it. it seems to me that every mmo including ffxiv still thinks it's reasonable to start a launch like this. a restaurant wouldn't give u more then what u ordered, or your right we would expect 5plates of the best. but enough hairs in there soups and the place will be shut down. just saying. i been playing since beta and have no intention to leaving but i still say i have just as much right to complain about what i dont' like or see as much as people who just like to paint rainbows an smiley faces about it.

my complaints help se just as much as the rainbows, i'm sure. not like i don't say yaaay to things i like. i don't feel entitled even though i am sitting on 140bucks in prepaids, i do think i want to steer the game in right direction though, weather it is not in the majority vote or not, i'll toss my coin at it. if at worse some new game being developed will take my head instead.

[D3aTh]

I'm fully on the side of believing SE is too incompetent to release content at paces normal companies do. It took them 4 years to finish WoTG. 4. Blizzard released 2 expansions in that time >.>

Lol this looks like old generation vs new generation. I think FF fans are getting too old (i'm including myself XD) and we are all gonne be eaten by the new generation... This is just like fast food... the old generation prefer cooking that takes long time to eat food of quality (FFXI expansions ftw), new generation prefer industrial food that goes real fast but is sh* to eat (**other "popular" mmo**)XD

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

if you walk into a bank and rob it... u get arrested pretty quick these days. aka not worth it. it seems to me that every mmo including ffxiv still thinks it's reasonable to start a launch like this. a restaurant wouldn't give u more then what u ordered, or your right we would expect 5plates of the best. but enough hairs in there soups and the place will be shut down. just saying. i been playing since beta and have no intention to leaving but i still say i have just as much right to complain about what i dont' like or see as much as people who just like to paint rainbows an smiley faces about it.

my complaints help se just as much as the rainbows, i'm sure. not like i don't say yaaay to things i like. i don't feel entitled even though i am sitting on 140bucks in prepaids, i do think i want to steer the game in right direction though, weather it is not in the majority vote or not, i'll toss my coin at it. if at worse some new game being developed will take my head instead.

It was a perfectly good hypothetical situation. The hair in the soup was FFXIV's launch and you people complaining about your god damn Fillet Mignons not getting here fast enough when you know it's going to take longer are just you being entitled a-holes for no good reason. You are being compensated.

Whether it be ignorance that drives you or whatever. I'm not here to dissect what little of a brain you've got. I'm just trying to say you can get out of your abusive relationship, ultimately. You're obviously not happy. You are acting out and taking it out on the wrong people in irrational ways. Just take a deep breath, look at yourself in the mirror, and tell yourself, "I'm better! I am going to be okay without FFXIV. FFXIV is bad for me and I should be with someone who will make me happy."

Now was that so hard?

[weeble]

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Whether it be ignorance that drives you or whatever. I'm not here to dissect what little of a brain you've got

yeah but your here to just straight out ridicule peoples intelligence like it is the relevant to the thread, or in the conversations in it. and as if intelligence is where se is going with it's changes in the game itself. or at least not the game play just the pockets.

either way how bout we get off the insults and stick with the op's thread.

by the way 139 hates

and 30likes for the concept of 3month gear... so as u can see i don't need to really say much to win my point.